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>right now vcrs are still illegal Link? Whatever kind of illegal they might be, it's not the kind that stops stores from selling hem or people from buying the

>right now vcrs are still illegal Link? Whatever kind of illegal they might be, it's not the kind that stops stores from selling hem or people from buying them. I'm highly suspicious of this claim.

cperciva 15y ago
Ok, technically VCRs are legal, it's just using them which is illegal. The first relevant link Google found is this: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1427/195/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1427/195/
- redthrowaway 15y ago
  Again, there's nothing in there about it being illegal (and Geist would be the first to point it out if it was), just that recording a show to watch later is not a protected right. It's not illegal, but cable companies may choose to implement DRM that would make it impossible, without Canadians having the right to circumvent it. So yes, it's broken, but it's not a forbidden practice under the law.
  - cperciva 15y ago
    Timeshifting isn't forbidden, but recording TV programs is. To quote from that article, "[...] address this issue as well, either by expanding the fair dealing user right such that home television taping would be permitted ...". It wouldn't be necessary to "address this issue" if it were already permitted.
    - redthrowaway 15y ago
      >Timeshifting isn't forbidden, but recording TV programs is. Again, the article says nothing of the sort. He's arguing in favor of explicitly permitting certain kinds of recording, which the law currently does not. Nor, to my knowledge, and certainly not as far as the article claims, does it forbid it. It is currently unregulated, which means you're free to do it, and others are free to try and stop you.
      - cperciva 15y ago
        Ok, since we clearly disagree about what he was writing, I'll point you at the copyright act: a broadcaster has a copyright in the communication signals that it broadcasts, consisting of the sole right to do the following in relation to the communication signal or any substantial part thereof: (a) to fix it,

>right now vcrs are still illegal Link? Whatever kind of illegal they might be, it's not the kind that stops stores from selling hem or people from buying them. I'm highly suspicious of this claim.

cperciva 15y ago

Ok, technically VCRs are legal, it's just using them which is illegal. The first relevant link Google found is this: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1427/195/ http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1427/195/

redthrowaway 15y ago
Again, there's nothing in there about it being illegal (and Geist would be the first to point it out if it was), just that recording a show to watch later is not a protected right. It's not illegal, but cable companies may choose to implement DRM that would make it impossible, without Canadians having the right to circumvent it. So yes, it's broken, but it's not a forbidden practice under the law.
- cperciva 15y ago
  Timeshifting isn't forbidden, but recording TV programs is. To quote from that article, "[...] address this issue as well, either by expanding the fair dealing user right such that home television taping would be permitted ...". It wouldn't be necessary to "address this issue" if it were already permitted.
  - redthrowaway 15y ago
    >Timeshifting isn't forbidden, but recording TV programs is. Again, the article says nothing of the sort. He's arguing in favor of explicitly permitting certain kinds of recording, which the law currently does not. Nor, to my knowledge, and certainly not as far as the article claims, does it forbid it. It is currently unregulated, which means you're free to do it, and others are free to try and stop you.
    - cperciva 15y ago
      Ok, since we clearly disagree about what he was writing, I'll point you at the copyright act: a broadcaster has a copyright in the communication signals that it broadcasts, consisting of the sole right to do the following in relation to the communication signal or any substantial part thereof: (a) to fix it,