So, the kernel is very much to their credit, GNOME - somewhat of a wash, in the sense that some people like it and some hate it... as for Fedora - I count that

So, the kernel is very much to their credit, GNOME - somewhat of a wash, in the sense that some people like it and some hate it... as for Fedora - I count that as one of "their" distributions, which like I said, I'm not a fan of. But point taken about many people working on the ecosystem.