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But this can never work. Or it will just do one thing, and one thing only. All this does is summarize information produced by humans, to "extract value" from it

But this can never work. Or it will just do one thing, and one thing only. All this does is summarize information produced by humans, to "extract value" from it. It cannot produce information itself. In other words: to make sure all the money goes to the plumber finding service, never to the plumber. These AIs serve to extract value from these summaries through "enshittification". https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/ https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/ It will massively increase the value of human interaction ... and the cost. It may even go so far that actual professionals start hiding from the internet, to hide from these models and avoid enshittification that way. We may have to start going back to a visiting a local cafe to find a plumber. I don't even think that is such a bad thing. Any AI that wants to actually learn more than just language (from summarization to bullshitting) will need to take actions in the real world and learn from them.

HarHarVeryFunny 4y ago
> Any AI that wants to actually learn more than just language (from summarization to bullshitting) will need to take actions in the real world and learn from them. Well, that's one additional source of knowledge, but we haven't even got into other sources like voice, video, simulation data, etc (let alone the interesting stuff like financial market data, aggregate human behavior, etc, etc). GPT-4 is only just starting to support image data, and who knows what GPT-5, 6.. will bring. Robotic embodiment is maybe better thought of as robotics, not an necessity for advancing AI in dozens of useful ways. But of course not every AI needs to be an expert in every domain. If you want to build a robot then it'll need to learn via interaction, but there's are tons of applications for even these 1st-gen language-only systems - look at all the applications that people have already found for them, and what is starting to be done with LangChain and plugins.

HarHarVeryFunny 4y ago

> Any AI that wants to actually learn more than just language (from summarization to bullshitting) will need to take actions in the real world and learn from them. Well, that's one additional source of knowledge, but we haven't even got into other sources like voice, video, simulation data, etc (let alone the interesting stuff like financial market data, aggregate human behavior, etc, etc). GPT-4 is only just starting to support image data, and who knows what GPT-5, 6.. will bring. Robotic embodiment is maybe better thought of as robotics, not an necessity for advancing AI in dozens of useful ways. But of course not every AI needs to be an expert in every domain. If you want to build a robot then it'll need to learn via interaction, but there's are tons of applications for even these 1st-gen language-only systems - look at all the applications that people have already found for them, and what is starting to be done with LangChain and plugins.