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Aren't you describing forwards compatibility? The Web is "backwards compatible" in the sense that old sites render on new browsers. But it sounds like you're de

Aren't you describing forwards compatibility? The Web is "backwards compatible" in the sense that old sites render on new browsers. But it sounds like you're describing new sites failing to render on old browsers (in the case of Discourse). For your stylus issue, that is slightly different since it's about input devices, but it still sounds like a forward compatibility issue to me, but I guess you could argue it either way.

WillAdams 4y ago
I want to be able to select text as I have since Go Corp.'s PenPoint. When using my Samsung Galaxy Book 12 running Windows Build 1703 to browse the web, it works to select the text in a natural fashion, no press-hold and fiddling w/ extension hooks necessary. I just want a contemporary browser on Windows 11 w/ a stylus to work thus --- what do I need to do? I've tried disabling Windows Ink, and I can't find any flags/settings in Chrome or Edge or Firefox which have a meaningful effect.
- chatmasta 4y ago
  I empathize with your frustration, but it sounds like an issue with your operating system and/or hardware vendor. I suppose it's fair to expect Chrome/Firefox to allow you to configure your input device to act like this, too. But the problem is not with the Web platform or any standard - it's some combination of your operating system and browser that's deciding how to translate "tap and hold" into Web API events like onClick or onTouch (which are notoriously annoying to implement cross-platform).
  - WillAdams 4y ago
    The problem is dragging with the stylus is converted into scrolling, which was changed in Fall Creator's Update, _and_ implemented in Chromium. I just want a way to turn it off --- I've turned off Windows Ink, but I can't find any options which affect this behaviour in Chrome/Edge --- I've disabled every option there is for scrolling --- what else can be turned off?
    - chatmasta 4y ago
      Yeah, I'm not a windows user nor a stylus user. Best I can suggest is to check your OS input device settings. At least on Mac, that's where I can configure settings related to scrollbars, which propagate through to browsers.
      - WillAdams 4y ago
        I've enabled the one option which is supposed to affect this: Settings | Bluetooth & Devices | Additional Pen Settings | Let me use my pen as a mouse when it's available and I have disabled every flag for Microsoft Edge related to scrolling. It's robustly, and intentionally broken, and I rue the day that I found it necessary to update, and I really wish someone would make a tablet w/ a Wacom EMR stylus which would run the Mac OS.

WillAdams 4y ago

I want to be able to select text as I have since Go Corp.'s PenPoint. When using my Samsung Galaxy Book 12 running Windows Build 1703 to browse the web, it works to select the text in a natural fashion, no press-hold and fiddling w/ extension hooks necessary. I just want a contemporary browser on Windows 11 w/ a stylus to work thus --- what do I need to do? I've tried disabling Windows Ink, and I can't find any flags/settings in Chrome or Edge or Firefox which have a meaningful effect.

chatmasta 4y ago
I empathize with your frustration, but it sounds like an issue with your operating system and/or hardware vendor. I suppose it's fair to expect Chrome/Firefox to allow you to configure your input device to act like this, too. But the problem is not with the Web platform or any standard - it's some combination of your operating system and browser that's deciding how to translate "tap and hold" into Web API events like onClick or onTouch (which are notoriously annoying to implement cross-platform).
- WillAdams 4y ago
  The problem is dragging with the stylus is converted into scrolling, which was changed in Fall Creator's Update, _and_ implemented in Chromium. I just want a way to turn it off --- I've turned off Windows Ink, but I can't find any options which affect this behaviour in Chrome/Edge --- I've disabled every option there is for scrolling --- what else can be turned off?
  - chatmasta 4y ago
    Yeah, I'm not a windows user nor a stylus user. Best I can suggest is to check your OS input device settings. At least on Mac, that's where I can configure settings related to scrollbars, which propagate through to browsers.
    - WillAdams 4y ago
      I've enabled the one option which is supposed to affect this: Settings | Bluetooth & Devices | Additional Pen Settings | Let me use my pen as a mouse when it's available and I have disabled every flag for Microsoft Edge related to scrolling. It's robustly, and intentionally broken, and I rue the day that I found it necessary to update, and I really wish someone would make a tablet w/ a Wacom EMR stylus which would run the Mac OS.