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Coal usage is at an all time high. https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-coal-consumption-reach-all-time-high-this-year-iea-2022-12-16/ https://ww

Coal usage is at an all time high. https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-coal-consumption-reach-all-time-high-this-year-iea-2022-12-16/ https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-coal-cons... It is 25% of global emissions. We’ve had 50 years to deal with this. Coal is such a dirty source of power. I’ve been told renewables are competitive for at least a decade. Something doesn’t add up.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Renewables have big upfront costs. This has a few effects, a key one being that stable countries with low cost of capital can lead on deployments. They first displace new builds, then later they close existing plants. The future is already here, it's just not evenly distributed. As your article says: > The world is close to a peak in fossil fuel use, with coal set to be the first to decline, but we are not there yet," said Keisuke Sadamori, the IEA’s director of energy markets and security.
- melling 4y ago
  Such optimism. It’s 50 years later. Half a century! https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI coal is such a dirty source of power, we’d want to eliminate it even if it didn’t cause climate change.
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    We could definitely have done better, but if I was one of those weird Marvel comic aliens judging the human race we're looking likely to scrape a C on climate change, which is nice. Lots of good work by a lot of people involved. Sadly a lot of it was effort spent on combating lies and stupidity, which drags down our score, but such is life. Hopefully we'll have learned some lessons for the next global challenge we face.
    - melling 4y ago
      Yes, I have learned my lesson. Next time I hear an optimist feed me a bunch of bs, i’m going to explain that they’re completely wrong, and people should hold the “optimists” just as accountable as the climate deniers. Time to admit you were wrong. Being wrong has a huge price.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago

Renewables have big upfront costs. This has a few effects, a key one being that stable countries with low cost of capital can lead on deployments. They first displace new builds, then later they close existing plants. The future is already here, it's just not evenly distributed. As your article says: > The world is close to a peak in fossil fuel use, with coal set to be the first to decline, but we are not there yet," said Keisuke Sadamori, the IEA’s director of energy markets and security.

melling 4y ago
Such optimism. It’s 50 years later. Half a century! https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI coal is such a dirty source of power, we’d want to eliminate it even if it didn’t cause climate change.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  We could definitely have done better, but if I was one of those weird Marvel comic aliens judging the human race we're looking likely to scrape a C on climate change, which is nice. Lots of good work by a lot of people involved. Sadly a lot of it was effort spent on combating lies and stupidity, which drags down our score, but such is life. Hopefully we'll have learned some lessons for the next global challenge we face.
  - melling 4y ago
    Yes, I have learned my lesson. Next time I hear an optimist feed me a bunch of bs, i’m going to explain that they’re completely wrong, and people should hold the “optimists” just as accountable as the climate deniers. Time to admit you were wrong. Being wrong has a huge price.