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You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy! <- welcome to the new world. All cheap Dacias (cheap European car brand) will be gone. So the mobility for lower income
by lnsru 4y ago
You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy! <- welcome to the new world. All cheap Dacias (cheap European car brand) will be gone. So the mobility for lower income people. With automotive industry gone European de-industrialization will be already far far ahead. And afterwards Europe will loose all the significance in the world.
- sofixa 4y agoEVs are still vehicles that are owned. Regarding Dacia, they have an EV, the Spring, which starts at 20k euros (without counting in a 5k "eco bonus", so around 15k), meanwhile their cheapest other car is the smaller Sandero at 12k. 12k/15k isn't a massive difference over the lifetime of a vehicle.
- lnsru 4y agoI see Sandero at 11300€ and Spring 22750€. “Eco Bonus” is 4500€ and is being phased out. Personally I will have luxury car afterwards too. But I know enough less fortunate people still driving VW Golfs from 2002, 2005. They will have hard time. They are not interested in crazy expensive cars with 120 km winter range.
- regularjack 4y agoThe fact that all new cars will be electric doesn't magically prevent 2002 Golfs from functioning.
- krzyk 4y agoWhat country does have that "eco bonus"?
- lnsru 4y agoGermany had last year 6000€ and this year it’s shrunk to 4500€.
- enigma20 4y agoYou are comparing to different segments. Sandero is 36 cm longer, 27 cm wider, 2 cm taller, and has 28L more of the trunk. So the difference will be even bigger. For 20k you get Jogger, which is a wagon, even more space, and it can be a 7-seater. And also real life range of Dacia Spring is around 160 km. So that is very little for 20k .€ Talking about Sandero, comparable in size Renault ZOE starts at 37k €
- silversmith 4y agoDacia already has a 20k EUR electric model - Spring. Sure, the equivalent ICE Stepway is 14k, but it's not all Tesla pricing levels.
- ihatepython 4y ago> You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy! <- welcome to the new world. All cheap Dacias (cheap European car brand) will be gone. So the mobility for lower income people. On the bright side, you will get to eat those delicious insects.
- csomar 4y agoYou are getting it wrong buddy. Europe lost most of its significance in the world. They are not making any software, hardware and cars that are coming from Asia are now at par except for Germany. Europe has a strong dependency on fossils and these sources are becoming less certain. (ie: Russia and potentially the middle-east). Europe could just accept that and become a third-world bunch of countries.. or try something ambitious and actually move from fossil fuels. If Europe can pull this off, they might find their standing again in the world.
- lnsru 4y agoMove from fossil fuels where!? To solar panels and batteries all made in China?
- RalfWausE 4y agoYou would be surprised how mobile you can be on a simple, fixed gear bicycle: My granddad made multiple trips a year using such a bicycle from Essen to some villages in Austria after the war where relatives lived...
- userulluipeste 4y agoWell, to be fair, Europe is still big on tourism, and these bold projects it dares to endeavor, if nothing else, will contribute to increasing its touristic significance (by setting it even more apart from the rest world and thus making it more exotic of a destination). We won't travel much, given our ideals of curbing the emissions, but that doesn't mean others will share this self-limitation and won't visit us, right?