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> It's a donation, not your source of income. If you really on that money that's your issue not of anyone else's. We're literally in a topic about creators and

> It's a donation, not your source of income. If you really on that money that's your issue not of anyone else's. We're literally in a topic about creators and Patreon where Patreon is a substantial source of income to quite a few creators. And the dismissive tone about donations in general... well, I won't comment on that > The platform such as Patreon could simply quote the value in dollars instead of BTC or whatever cryptocurrency. Or they could just not bother. > Recurring payments with crypto will have to be done manually anyways Ah yes. The great digital system of the future where even such a simple thing as recurring payments must be done manually

doodlesdev 4y ago
> And the dismissive tone about donations in general... well, I won't comment on that Why not? > Or they could just not bother. That's true. The creators have the option of creating their own cryptocurrency wallets and accepting the donations without any middleman. They could also choose a more libre alternative to Patreon such as OpenCollective [0][1] or Liberapay [2]. > Ah yes. The great digital system of the future where even such a simple thing as recurring payments must be done manually I see that as a plus personally. Recurring payments are so hard to cancel at times with credit cards I'm at the point I create a new virtual credit card for every subscription I create. Theoretically you could also setup your wallet to automatically transact, it's just that's not a functionality of your cryptocurrency, just as recurring payments aren't a functionality of the dollar but rather of your bank/credit card provider. [0]: https://opencollective.com/ https://opencollective.com/ [1]: https://docs.opencollective.foundation/how-it-works/financial-contributions/cryptocurrency-donations https://docs.opencollective.foundation/how-it-works/financia... [2]: https://en.liberapay.com/ https://en.liberapay.com/
- illiarian 4y ago
  > Why not? Because a lot of people live or earn a lot of their living through donations, and quite a lot of opensource you're using would actually be helped with more donations. > The creators have the option of creating their own cryptocurrency wallets and accepting the donations without any middleman Except, you know, all the actual things that those "middlemen" do like provide verification that it is the actual artist and not a rip-off, provide hosting for their content etc. > Recurring payments are so hard to cancel at times with credit cards I'm at the point I create a new virtual credit card for every subscription I create. Yes, dark patterns around subscriptions are a problem. However, subscriptions and notifications about whether a person has canceled their subscirption or became a subscriber is valuable information to, you know, actually be able to plan ahead, and not wonder whether that person who did something manually yesterday will be there tomorrow. Edit > They could also choose a more libre alternative to Patreon such as OpenCollective [0][1] or Liberapay [2]. The could skip all the middlemen, or could chose these middlemen that I personally like and call them "libre" just because they accept cryptocurrency. And LiberaPay is literally a middleman with exactly zero additional value

doodlesdev 4y ago

> And the dismissive tone about donations in general... well, I won't comment on that Why not? > Or they could just not bother. That's true. The creators have the option of creating their own cryptocurrency wallets and accepting the donations without any middleman. They could also choose a more libre alternative to Patreon such as OpenCollective [0][1] or Liberapay [2]. > Ah yes. The great digital system of the future where even such a simple thing as recurring payments must be done manually I see that as a plus personally. Recurring payments are so hard to cancel at times with credit cards I'm at the point I create a new virtual credit card for every subscription I create. Theoretically you could also setup your wallet to automatically transact, it's just that's not a functionality of your cryptocurrency, just as recurring payments aren't a functionality of the dollar but rather of your bank/credit card provider. [0]: https://opencollective.com/ https://opencollective.com/ [1]: https://docs.opencollective.foundation/how-it-works/financial-contributions/cryptocurrency-donations https://docs.opencollective.foundation/how-it-works/financia... [2]: https://en.liberapay.com/ https://en.liberapay.com/

illiarian 4y ago
> Why not? Because a lot of people live or earn a lot of their living through donations, and quite a lot of opensource you're using would actually be helped with more donations. > The creators have the option of creating their own cryptocurrency wallets and accepting the donations without any middleman Except, you know, all the actual things that those "middlemen" do like provide verification that it is the actual artist and not a rip-off, provide hosting for their content etc. > Recurring payments are so hard to cancel at times with credit cards I'm at the point I create a new virtual credit card for every subscription I create. Yes, dark patterns around subscriptions are a problem. However, subscriptions and notifications about whether a person has canceled their subscirption or became a subscriber is valuable information to, you know, actually be able to plan ahead, and not wonder whether that person who did something manually yesterday will be there tomorrow. Edit > They could also choose a more libre alternative to Patreon such as OpenCollective [0][1] or Liberapay [2]. The could skip all the middlemen, or could chose these middlemen that I personally like and call them "libre" just because they accept cryptocurrency. And LiberaPay is literally a middleman with exactly zero additional value