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The FUD is spread by climate activists so often that nobody takes them seriously anymore. Look, this [0] is the latest example - I've heard about it from my fri

by iakov 4y ago

The FUD is spread by climate activists so often that nobody takes them seriously anymore. Look, this [0] is the latest example - I've heard about it from my friends. They were mocking the poster child of climate change activists and her doom-and-gloom prophecies that she promptly deleted once it became clear that the permanent ice is still there, and that humanity is not, in fact, extinct. Of course now it's an "imprecise paraphrase" and not meant to be taken at face value, because even to a layman the FUD is clearly visible. All this screaming, kicking and general attentionwhoring did nothing positive to the climate change topic. My friends are not conspiracy nuts or some low-life crazies, they're normal people with uni degrees working tech jobs and living middle-class lives. They have heard so much about their carbon footprint, about the inevitable climate catastrophe the upcoming years that is getting postponed every time, that they are just tired of that. There is no constructive solution from our elected leaders, just endless fear-mongering, finger-pointing and uncertain predictions. [0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greta-thunberg-deleted-2018-tweet-on-humanity/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greta-thunberg-deleted-201...

gaganyaan 4y ago
Did you actually read the article you linked? I ask because it was quite informative, and doesn't support what you're saying. I don't really have the time to argue about it with you unfortunately, but if anybody else reads the above comment: yes, you can safely ignore it like the rest of the denialist comments that come from a place of ignorance. If you'd like to know why the commenter is speaking out of ignorance, the linked article is a great place to start, or look up tipping points.
- iakov 4y ago
  "You are wrong. I don't have time to explain how exactly you are wrong, but you are wrong. Everybody who reads this know - he is wrong! Wroooong!" I am not denying climate change. I look out of my window on Christmas and see rain, I look at my thermometer in August and see record-high temperatures. I read the news about a catastrophic heat wave killing senior all over Europe, year after year. Yet again I have to say that climate activists, and that includes people like you, do nothing, nothing good for the movement. Look at the article I've linked - it's rated as "mixed" (lol), since the tweet itself wasn't factual. It wasn't some nobody who tweeted that, it was the very poster child of the activist movement. If we can't trust the activists that are very public and very visible, who do we trust? Paraphrased scientists? Look at your comment - you are so full of yourself, so righteous that you won't even step down to a level of mere mortals to explain how exactly I'm wrong. Do you think someone will read your text tantrum and become convinced that climate change is real and they need to act? Or is the purpose of this comment just to stir up emotions and label someone a "denialist"?
Sankozi 4y ago
I completely agree that some climate activists are spreading FUD (for some time I was a climate denialist because of that), but it cannot be used as an argument against sensible climate policies. Here we are not even talking about policy - it is just a recommendation that was blocked by lobbying group. Even just a recommendation cannot pass and people are defending this by bringing up some ignorant climate activists or using manipulation tactics (like in fwungy post).

by iakov 4y ago

gaganyaan 4y ago

Did you actually read the article you linked? I ask because it was quite informative, and doesn't support what you're saying. I don't really have the time to argue about it with you unfortunately, but if anybody else reads the above comment: yes, you can safely ignore it like the rest of the denialist comments that come from a place of ignorance. If you'd like to know why the commenter is speaking out of ignorance, the linked article is a great place to start, or look up tipping points.

iakov 4y ago
"You are wrong. I don't have time to explain how exactly you are wrong, but you are wrong. Everybody who reads this know - he is wrong! Wroooong!" I am not denying climate change. I look out of my window on Christmas and see rain, I look at my thermometer in August and see record-high temperatures. I read the news about a catastrophic heat wave killing senior all over Europe, year after year. Yet again I have to say that climate activists, and that includes people like you, do nothing, nothing good for the movement. Look at the article I've linked - it's rated as "mixed" (lol), since the tweet itself wasn't factual. It wasn't some nobody who tweeted that, it was the very poster child of the activist movement. If we can't trust the activists that are very public and very visible, who do we trust? Paraphrased scientists? Look at your comment - you are so full of yourself, so righteous that you won't even step down to a level of mere mortals to explain how exactly I'm wrong. Do you think someone will read your text tantrum and become convinced that climate change is real and they need to act? Or is the purpose of this comment just to stir up emotions and label someone a "denialist"?

Sankozi 4y ago

I completely agree that some climate activists are spreading FUD (for some time I was a climate denialist because of that), but it cannot be used as an argument against sensible climate policies. Here we are not even talking about policy - it is just a recommendation that was blocked by lobbying group. Even just a recommendation cannot pass and people are defending this by bringing up some ignorant climate activists or using manipulation tactics (like in fwungy post).