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The trope of the rich environmentalist flying their private jet, is just that. I’m sure that some exist, but the vast majority take far more care of the environ

The trope of the rich environmentalist flying their private jet, is just that. I’m sure that some exist, but the vast majority take far more care of the environment than that.

prepend 4y ago
A trope means a common theme. I agree that it’s a trope because it occurs frequently (look at every climate change conference). I think maybe you meant to say misconception or something like that where the reality is different than understanding. In this case reality is the same as understanding.
ajsnigrutin 4y ago
https://www.businessinsider.in/sustainability/news/cop27-attendees-criticised-for-hypocrisy-after-egypt-receives-400-private-jets/articleshow/95530258.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/sustainability/news/cop27-att... I'm not sure about that. I mean.. even if you look at the cars they're driving (again, those are rich people, they can easily afford anything electric): https://www.schwarzeneggerclimateinitiative.com/ https://www.schwarzeneggerclimateinitiative.com/ And then he drivers an SUV even larger than him: https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/arnold-schwarzenegger-car-accident-prius-suv-injuries/ https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/arnold-schwarzenegger-car-acc... Ursula: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/02/revealed-air-miles-ursula-used-private-jet-travel-just-31-miles/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/02/revealed-a... etc.
- doctor_eval 4y ago
  While I think it’s a positive thing for people in positions of power to speak up for the environment, I do not personally consider any of these people environmentalists. I think there is a huge difference between supporting a cause and living it. Nevertheless, after rereading your original comment, I fully agree with you. These world leaders should be leading. It is disgusting and hypocritical that they flew 400 private jets to the COP conference.
  - zardo 4y ago
    It's not as though everyone going to the COP conference wants to lead on the environment, many of them are going for things like... preventing the recommendation of a plant based diet.
brokenkebaby 4y ago
"Vast majority" is not even an applicable term here. It is specifically about green gurus with jets (which is not a myth, but observable political phenomenon), and if you're not rich enough, not politically influential, and don't fly own jet - its not about you, or anyone you know.
- doctor_eval 4y ago
  I don’t think it’s about green gurus. It’s about politicians. They know how big the problems are, but like most people, they don’t want to change their behaviour or privileges.

The trope of the rich environmentalist flying their private jet, is just that. I’m sure that some exist, but the vast majority take far more care of the environment than that.

prepend 4y ago

A trope means a common theme. I agree that it’s a trope because it occurs frequently (look at every climate change conference). I think maybe you meant to say misconception or something like that where the reality is different than understanding. In this case reality is the same as understanding.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

https://www.businessinsider.in/sustainability/news/cop27-attendees-criticised-for-hypocrisy-after-egypt-receives-400-private-jets/articleshow/95530258.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/sustainability/news/cop27-att... I'm not sure about that. I mean.. even if you look at the cars they're driving (again, those are rich people, they can easily afford anything electric): https://www.schwarzeneggerclimateinitiative.com/ https://www.schwarzeneggerclimateinitiative.com/ And then he drivers an SUV even larger than him: https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/arnold-schwarzenegger-car-accident-prius-suv-injuries/ https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/arnold-schwarzenegger-car-acc... Ursula: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/02/revealed-air-miles-ursula-used-private-jet-travel-just-31-miles/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/02/revealed-a... etc.

doctor_eval 4y ago
While I think it’s a positive thing for people in positions of power to speak up for the environment, I do not personally consider any of these people environmentalists. I think there is a huge difference between supporting a cause and living it. Nevertheless, after rereading your original comment, I fully agree with you. These world leaders should be leading. It is disgusting and hypocritical that they flew 400 private jets to the COP conference.
- zardo 4y ago
  It's not as though everyone going to the COP conference wants to lead on the environment, many of them are going for things like... preventing the recommendation of a plant based diet.

brokenkebaby 4y ago

"Vast majority" is not even an applicable term here. It is specifically about green gurus with jets (which is not a myth, but observable political phenomenon), and if you're not rich enough, not politically influential, and don't fly own jet - its not about you, or anyone you know.

doctor_eval 4y ago
I don’t think it’s about green gurus. It’s about politicians. They know how big the problems are, but like most people, they don’t want to change their behaviour or privileges.