People more often talk about "4k intros" or "64k intros" to be clear (intros being size-restriced demos), often retro-people at events also but then people talk

People more often talk about "4k intros" or "64k intros" to be clear (intros being size-restriced demos), often retro-people at events also but then people talk about the "C-64" in those cases (and the technologies and capabilities used is so different that it's hard to confuse the two in practice).