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throwawaymaths 4y ago
Politically, it can't. Because it's done way worse shit inside its own borders, against people, whom it has a moral responsibility to protect, and legally, too, by being a signatory to various un human right conventions. The us invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan were shitty but you would be very hard pressed to argue that it was a systematic killing and erasure of culture, considering how many people the US military didn't kill. By contrast, china is actively erasing uighur culture, for example, by domiciling han men with uighur women (I am being too kind. What is going on is rape), systematically killing uighur men, and repressing language, banning religious gatherings, etc.
- senttoschool 4y ago
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  - throwawaymaths 4y ago
    You don't understand American history if you're making those claims. I'm a minority, whose ancestors came to this country as indentured servants, owned by a company, so kindly sit the fuck down. In any case the US actively seeks to reduce these things while china actively ramps up its human rights abuses in 2023. Your whataboutism is transparent and hamfisted. You are an apologist for an ongoing genocide. Don't ever forget that for the rest of your life.
    - senttoschool 4y ago
      What part of history do I not understand? The US deals with Muslims by bombing them. China deals with Muslims by force educating them. What’s better?
      - throwawaymaths 4y ago
        Lol china kills Muslims too. Look. Neither is good. At least in the US we are free to criticize it so that hopefully in the future the US doesn't do that shit anymore. And hey guess what we are definitely killing Muslims at a lower rate now. And china is killing Muslims at a higher rate now! Trajectories are important.
      - stale2002 4y ago
        Its all bad, and it is good to take actions to stop them, even if other people are doing bad things. Problem solved. Just condemn and take actions against all bad things that are being done, regardless of if you can stop every bad thing in the world.
      - dang 4y ago
        Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments, political/ideological/national battle comments, and taking threads further into flamewar? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing your views (I don't even know what they are, exactly), I'm saying that if you're going to post about this stuff we need you to follow the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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Politically, it can't. Because it's done way worse shit inside its own borders, against people, whom it has a moral responsibility to protect, and legally, too, by being a signatory to various un human right conventions. The us invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan were shitty but you would be very hard pressed to argue that it was a systematic killing and erasure of culture, considering how many people the US military didn't kill. By contrast, china is actively erasing uighur culture, for example, by domiciling han men with uighur women (I am being too kind. What is going on is rape), systematically killing uighur men, and repressing language, banning religious gatherings, etc.

senttoschool 4y ago
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- throwawaymaths 4y ago
  You don't understand American history if you're making those claims. I'm a minority, whose ancestors came to this country as indentured servants, owned by a company, so kindly sit the fuck down. In any case the US actively seeks to reduce these things while china actively ramps up its human rights abuses in 2023. Your whataboutism is transparent and hamfisted. You are an apologist for an ongoing genocide. Don't ever forget that for the rest of your life.
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    What part of history do I not understand? The US deals with Muslims by bombing them. China deals with Muslims by force educating them. What’s better?
    - throwawaymaths 4y ago
      Lol china kills Muslims too. Look. Neither is good. At least in the US we are free to criticize it so that hopefully in the future the US doesn't do that shit anymore. And hey guess what we are definitely killing Muslims at a lower rate now. And china is killing Muslims at a higher rate now! Trajectories are important.
    - stale2002 4y ago
      Its all bad, and it is good to take actions to stop them, even if other people are doing bad things. Problem solved. Just condemn and take actions against all bad things that are being done, regardless of if you can stop every bad thing in the world.
    - dang 4y ago
      Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments, political/ideological/national battle comments, and taking threads further into flamewar? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing your views (I don't even know what they are, exactly), I'm saying that if you're going to post about this stuff we need you to follow the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.