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> The US government has detained or killed many more people like me Like what?

lmm 4y ago
Julian Assange and Harry Dunn are the examples that immediately come to mind - the latter was apparently not 100% intentional, but the point remains that my fellow citizens apparently have zero recourse against getting killed by US spies, and the US will help them evade justice and face no real consequence for it. I can't imagine a Chinese agent getting away with the same thing, although that's perhaps naive.
- _8j50 4y ago
  > although that's perhaps naive. Yea it is and it isn't a freaking competition. A chinese agent will not harm you unless there is a reason and even in the west they harm their own dissidents. Julian ans that guy were harmed because they took the fight against the US, are you planning on doing the same? I dare you to go to hong kong and speak up and fight for the liberty if hong kong. And show me just exactly how HK is more free and has a government that will respect your rights more than the US. You talk like China and the US are even comparable. Honestly, you people can downvote me all you want but your naivette is putting me and of course yourself un serious harms way. You stand now enjoying liberty and peace that was hard won and don't consider the stakes.
  - lmm 4y ago
    > Julian ans that guy were harmed because they took the fight against the US, are you planning on doing the same? I dare you to go to hong kong and speak up and fight for the liberty if hong kong. WTF are you talking about? Neither of the people I mentioned ever went to the US. Assange put information that embarrassed the US on the internet, something you and I do about China all the time. > And show me just exactly how HK is more free and has a government that will respect your rights more than the US. You talk like China and the US are even comparable. I just have; HK and China do not get nonresident noncitizens in my country imprisoned or killed; the US does.
    - _8j50 4y ago
      > Assange put information that embarrassed the US on the internet You say embarrassed the US says stolen as in espionage. And the majority of americans support the sentiment against him,snowden,etc... Try publishing shit china hates and find out. Sony made a movie that embarrased NK and had their corporate network nuked. Show me one person that did that and got away with it. > just have; HK and China do not get nonresident noncitizens in my country imprisoned or killed; the US does. Apples and oranges, if China had similar power and interests you have no reason to believe the same or likely worse won't happen to you. What you don't get is this whole topic is about preventing china from becoming such a threat to you. The US has your media and politicians by the the throat that's why things are the current way and you are seriously saying China is better somehow you will be treated better than their own people
      - lmm 4y ago
        > Try publishing shit china hates and find out. Sony made a movie that embarrased NK and had their corporate network nuked. They got hacked, sure. Did anyone get imprisoned? For years? > What you don't get is this whole topic is about preventing china from becoming such a threat to you. The US has your media and politicians by the the throat And I'm supposed to be happy about that? Again, if I'm no freer now than I would be under Chinese hegemony then why should I care whose flag is on the pole? I don't want Europe bending the knee to China either. But right now America is the bigger threat.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  Julian Assange worked with Russia against US interests. The woman who killed Harry Dunn should have been prosecuted in Britain. But it is strange why Britain isn't fighting harder to get her extradited.

lmm 4y ago

Julian Assange and Harry Dunn are the examples that immediately come to mind - the latter was apparently not 100% intentional, but the point remains that my fellow citizens apparently have zero recourse against getting killed by US spies, and the US will help them evade justice and face no real consequence for it. I can't imagine a Chinese agent getting away with the same thing, although that's perhaps naive.

_8j50 4y ago
> although that's perhaps naive. Yea it is and it isn't a freaking competition. A chinese agent will not harm you unless there is a reason and even in the west they harm their own dissidents. Julian ans that guy were harmed because they took the fight against the US, are you planning on doing the same? I dare you to go to hong kong and speak up and fight for the liberty if hong kong. And show me just exactly how HK is more free and has a government that will respect your rights more than the US. You talk like China and the US are even comparable. Honestly, you people can downvote me all you want but your naivette is putting me and of course yourself un serious harms way. You stand now enjoying liberty and peace that was hard won and don't consider the stakes.
- lmm 4y ago
  > Julian ans that guy were harmed because they took the fight against the US, are you planning on doing the same? I dare you to go to hong kong and speak up and fight for the liberty if hong kong. WTF are you talking about? Neither of the people I mentioned ever went to the US. Assange put information that embarrassed the US on the internet, something you and I do about China all the time. > And show me just exactly how HK is more free and has a government that will respect your rights more than the US. You talk like China and the US are even comparable. I just have; HK and China do not get nonresident noncitizens in my country imprisoned or killed; the US does.
  - _8j50 4y ago
    > Assange put information that embarrassed the US on the internet You say embarrassed the US says stolen as in espionage. And the majority of americans support the sentiment against him,snowden,etc... Try publishing shit china hates and find out. Sony made a movie that embarrased NK and had their corporate network nuked. Show me one person that did that and got away with it. > just have; HK and China do not get nonresident noncitizens in my country imprisoned or killed; the US does. Apples and oranges, if China had similar power and interests you have no reason to believe the same or likely worse won't happen to you. What you don't get is this whole topic is about preventing china from becoming such a threat to you. The US has your media and politicians by the the throat that's why things are the current way and you are seriously saying China is better somehow you will be treated better than their own people
    - lmm 4y ago
      > Try publishing shit china hates and find out. Sony made a movie that embarrased NK and had their corporate network nuked. They got hacked, sure. Did anyone get imprisoned? For years? > What you don't get is this whole topic is about preventing china from becoming such a threat to you. The US has your media and politicians by the the throat And I'm supposed to be happy about that? Again, if I'm no freer now than I would be under Chinese hegemony then why should I care whose flag is on the pole? I don't want Europe bending the knee to China either. But right now America is the bigger threat.
HyperSane 4y ago
Julian Assange worked with Russia against US interests. The woman who killed Harry Dunn should have been prosecuted in Britain. But it is strange why Britain isn't fighting harder to get her extradited.