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My steam account was deleted after admitting that a relative gave me the account

26 points by luu 4y ago

WirelessGigabit 4y ago
Without going in to the fact whether this is real or not, I wonder how this works in Europe. I thought they had the right to resell software licenses. And since that's not possible with Steam, you sell the account. In fact, I've said multiple times that it's better to create an account per game to facilitate this.
unclekev 4y ago
I think there is more to the story. The person that made that post has been previously caught and placed on the universal scammer list. https://www.universalscammerlist.com/?username=screddachedda https://www.universalscammerlist.com/?username=screddachedda
- noahtallen 4y ago
  Though it does sound like Steam would still remove your access if you actually did inherent the account (even if OOP is lying about that). I think that’s a pretty shitty policy, especially since it’s not like more than one person can use the account simultaneously.
  - unclekev 4y ago
    > I think that’s a pretty shitty policy Agreed. > Though it does sound like Steam would still remove your access if you actually did inherent the account I found this to be a good article that expands on the whole "What happens to your Steam account when you die" question: https://www.eurogamer.net/what-happens-to-your-steam-account-when-you-die https://www.eurogamer.net/what-happens-to-your-steam-account... > "Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account, nor may you sell, charge others for the right to use, or transfer any Subscriptions other than if and as expressly permitted by this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use) or as otherwise specifically permitted by Valve." > "In the simplest terms, this means that without express permission from Valve, you can't just give your Steam account to another person. Even if you were to write it into your will that you wanted this to happen, without that permission, it wouldn't hold up upon your death. Earlier this week, I spoke to a lawyer who specialises in the video game industry to confirm that this is, in fact, the case." Seems like the answer is "It's gone"
    - onli 4y ago
      Completely not legal. Maybe contract law is bloated enough in the US to give valve that power, I'm pretty sure it isn't in the EU. Valve can't decide how ownership works, not in all jurisdictions.
      - cbaconnier 4y ago
        Worth mentioning that you don't own the games, you buy non-transferable licenses to play the games. Therefore I think it's perfectly (and unfortunately) legal.
        slowmovintarget 4y ago
        You can gift the license to someone else, can't you?
        Volundr 4y ago
        You can buy gift licenses from the store and give them to someone. You can't just gift a game from your library to someone.
  - dikei 4y ago
    Steam is not the only one though, many software licenses are not transferable.
- CGamesPlay 4y ago
  I don't have a horse in this race, but that website just says "username you passed in query string is a scammer as of some recent date" and provides no sources or proof. It's libel as a service?
  - lolc 4y ago
    For all we know, it was put there by Steam!
- Zetobal 4y ago
  90% of all "I got banned" posts are from scammers. They just want to social engineer their way out of it.
- bilekas 4y ago
  Honestly that doesn't surprise me too much. Reddit coms seem to have that ethos in general. Reposts and general low quality for reputation whoring.
- everfree 4y ago
  Why should we trust that list? It looks like any one mod from any of dozens of subreddits can put someone on that list for any unspecified reason, and there's no checks and balances, appeals, or other recourse. For all we know, a mod of r/lolboosting could have put him on the list because he wrote in some other unrelated subreddit that he prefers DOTA. Of course, we all know that Reddit mods are known for their fair and impartial behavior.
steponlego 4y ago
Steam is doing well cracking down on these losers.
- everfree 4y ago
  By "loser", I assume you mean someone who lost their family member?
  - steponlego 4y ago
    If I believed everything I read on the Internet I wouldn’t even still be alive.
rendall 4y ago
Georgetown from Steam wrote "... since you mentioned you do not originally created the account...[sic] That's a non-native construction. Unusual, for it to be coming from official support.
- steponlego 4y ago
  You’ve never met an IT Hindu?
devjab 4y ago
The person is asking Steam support to tell them which e-mail is associated with the account. If someone gave you their account, why would it be on their e-mail so many years later? And why wouldn't you know what e-mail it was? I mean, it could be that the person is actually being honest, but if so, then the person has put themselves in a situation where they will never be able to convince anyone they aren't trying to steal an account.
xk_id 4y ago
If only this was a problem blockchains could solve.

26 points by luu 4y ago

Without going in to the fact whether this is real or not, I wonder how this works in Europe. I thought they had the right to resell software licenses. And since that's not possible with Steam, you sell the account. In fact, I've said multiple times that it's better to create an account per game to facilitate this.

unclekev 4y ago

I think there is more to the story. The person that made that post has been previously caught and placed on the universal scammer list. https://www.universalscammerlist.com/?username=screddachedda https://www.universalscammerlist.com/?username=screddachedda

noahtallen 4y ago
Though it does sound like Steam would still remove your access if you actually did inherent the account (even if OOP is lying about that). I think that’s a pretty shitty policy, especially since it’s not like more than one person can use the account simultaneously.
- unclekev 4y ago
  > I think that’s a pretty shitty policy Agreed. > Though it does sound like Steam would still remove your access if you actually did inherent the account I found this to be a good article that expands on the whole "What happens to your Steam account when you die" question: https://www.eurogamer.net/what-happens-to-your-steam-account-when-you-die https://www.eurogamer.net/what-happens-to-your-steam-account... > "Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account, nor may you sell, charge others for the right to use, or transfer any Subscriptions other than if and as expressly permitted by this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use) or as otherwise specifically permitted by Valve." > "In the simplest terms, this means that without express permission from Valve, you can't just give your Steam account to another person. Even if you were to write it into your will that you wanted this to happen, without that permission, it wouldn't hold up upon your death. Earlier this week, I spoke to a lawyer who specialises in the video game industry to confirm that this is, in fact, the case." Seems like the answer is "It's gone"
  - onli 4y ago
    Completely not legal. Maybe contract law is bloated enough in the US to give valve that power, I'm pretty sure it isn't in the EU. Valve can't decide how ownership works, not in all jurisdictions.
    - cbaconnier 4y ago
      Worth mentioning that you don't own the games, you buy non-transferable licenses to play the games. Therefore I think it's perfectly (and unfortunately) legal.
      - slowmovintarget 4y ago
        You can gift the license to someone else, can't you?
        Volundr 4y ago
        You can buy gift licenses from the store and give them to someone. You can't just gift a game from your library to someone.
- dikei 4y ago
  Steam is not the only one though, many software licenses are not transferable.
CGamesPlay 4y ago
I don't have a horse in this race, but that website just says "username you passed in query string is a scammer as of some recent date" and provides no sources or proof. It's libel as a service?
- lolc 4y ago
  For all we know, it was put there by Steam!
Zetobal 4y ago
90% of all "I got banned" posts are from scammers. They just want to social engineer their way out of it.
bilekas 4y ago
Honestly that doesn't surprise me too much. Reddit coms seem to have that ethos in general. Reposts and general low quality for reputation whoring.
everfree 4y ago
Why should we trust that list? It looks like any one mod from any of dozens of subreddits can put someone on that list for any unspecified reason, and there's no checks and balances, appeals, or other recourse. For all we know, a mod of r/lolboosting could have put him on the list because he wrote in some other unrelated subreddit that he prefers DOTA. Of course, we all know that Reddit mods are known for their fair and impartial behavior.

steponlego 4y ago

Steam is doing well cracking down on these losers.

everfree 4y ago
By "loser", I assume you mean someone who lost their family member?
- steponlego 4y ago
  If I believed everything I read on the Internet I wouldn’t even still be alive.

rendall 4y ago

Georgetown from Steam wrote "... since you mentioned you do not originally created the account...[sic] That's a non-native construction. Unusual, for it to be coming from official support.

steponlego 4y ago
You’ve never met an IT Hindu?

devjab 4y ago

The person is asking Steam support to tell them which e-mail is associated with the account. If someone gave you their account, why would it be on their e-mail so many years later? And why wouldn't you know what e-mail it was? I mean, it could be that the person is actually being honest, but if so, then the person has put themselves in a situation where they will never be able to convince anyone they aren't trying to steal an account.

xk_id 4y ago

If only this was a problem blockchains could solve.