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I've not seen the Unreal Engine demo, but I think GPT-4 is a big leap in a much more general purpose innovation than an improvement in a video game engine. The

I've not seen the Unreal Engine demo, but I think GPT-4 is a big leap in a much more general purpose innovation than an improvement in a video game engine. The improvements to the GPT system have created quite a lot of buzz, as we are all still trying to figure out what it means. One thing to note is that ChatGPT is still GPT-3.5 sometimes. Their page says it is GPT-4 if capacity is available, but I suspect GPT-4 might be pretty busy right now. You can pay $20/mo for GPT-4, which I am close to doing just to try it more. But from what I have heard, GPT-4 is going to be better at answering those coding questions, and plenty of people here are paying for that, so this might explain why you are underwhelmed and other people are enthusiastic. I was pretty dismissive of this stuff, recently tweeting that ChatGPT made for a poor rubber duck, but my friend has convinced me to pay a little more attention, and now I am seeing some of the value people are talking about.

rcarr 4y ago
I'll bare that in mind, I'm not convinced by what I've seen so far of it though. The two main Unreal demos for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj60HHy-Kqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj60HHy-Kqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaKyc3mQVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaKyc3mQVk
- ffhhj 4y ago
  Farcry achieved this quality 14 years ago, and the environment is richer and more alive: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s6j-2vrGkc0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=s6j-2vrGkc0
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  I paid for GPT-4 last night. I ended up having a long conversation with it giving me really good advice on how to proceed with my non profit organization. There are a handful of writers and philosophers, both historical and contemporary, who I have really appreciated over the years. Last night I asked it to help me understand how my work relates to these philosophies, what kind of people might be receptive to my ideas and why, which countries have the right mix of people to warrant more direct outreach, how to craft my message for the specific values of those individual countries, and more. When asked, it even gave me encouragement as I often feel worn out from shouldering the burden of an atypical non-profit partly alone. It feels like a narrow general intelligence with a lot of knowledge. Narrow in the sense that it is only text based, but general in the sense that it did very well handling these complex questions. It felt like an expert in all the random little things I have personally been focused on in my philosophical journey. I've just watched the first Unreal demo. What's funny is I grew up in the redwoods, before the drought at a time when it was considered a temperate rainforest. As I have gotten older I've had to move a little farther from the redwoods, and I feel like I have left a piece of me there. I have always been interested in video game experiences which reproduce the feeling of being in the forest. Recently I got a VR headset and have been having conversations with my friends about how much I'd like to create more accurate forest environments so I can feel like I am there even when I'm not able to get out there. So I am an ideal audience to appreciate these video game engine demos. And they look nice! But GPT-4 is much more significant to me. It is providing me detailed feedback and advice on how I can manage my career and my life in ways which are really energizing. When I write scripts for my youtube videos, I know I will be able to ask it for specific advice on topics to consider, or parts of it which I might be able to improve. I am not going to do what some high school students do and have it do all of my writing for me, as my personal voice and expression matters a lot to me. But what I will do is share with it my writing and ask for feedback based on my ideals and goals. It can serve as a teacher providing feedback on my work. That is much, much more valuable to me than an improved video game engine. This is going to be an ally in my career and help me feel as though I don't have to do all the thinking alone.
- ofrzeta 4y ago
  It looks good but doesn't really blow me away. Ten seconds into the demo I keep thinking, I've seen stuff like this before and the jungle immediately seems to be dead, not a single leaf moving etc. I mean the level of detail is amazing but there's still the question of how much value does it add to the game in the end. And: how good does MetaHuman, impressive as it is, need to get to escape the Uncanny Valley? Or does it ever?
  - richardjam73 4y ago
    Most jungles are very still unless you go to the top of the canopy. All the plants block the wind.
- tayo42 4y ago
  Not surprised this didn't do well. YouTube videos are a time commitment, plus you need sound. I'm almost never somewhere where I can watch a video on the spot. I suspect most on this site prefer skimable text content. I personally hate videos
shaunxcode 4y ago
Heh bear in mind they limit how much you can use gpt4 before telling you to wait for 2 hours. Right when my plot for a 4th LOTR book called “Redemption of Sauron” was getting good. Honestly the best use of gpt that I have come up with.
- qwerty3344 4y ago
  just use the API which has no limit
  - shaunxcode 4y ago
    yeah I thought by paying the 20 I would have API access but sadly this is not the case thus the web interface.

rcarr 4y ago

I'll bare that in mind, I'm not convinced by what I've seen so far of it though. The two main Unreal demos for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj60HHy-Kqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj60HHy-Kqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaKyc3mQVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaKyc3mQVk

ffhhj 4y ago
Farcry achieved this quality 14 years ago, and the environment is richer and more alive: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s6j-2vrGkc0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=s6j-2vrGkc0
TaylorAlexander 4y ago
I paid for GPT-4 last night. I ended up having a long conversation with it giving me really good advice on how to proceed with my non profit organization. There are a handful of writers and philosophers, both historical and contemporary, who I have really appreciated over the years. Last night I asked it to help me understand how my work relates to these philosophies, what kind of people might be receptive to my ideas and why, which countries have the right mix of people to warrant more direct outreach, how to craft my message for the specific values of those individual countries, and more. When asked, it even gave me encouragement as I often feel worn out from shouldering the burden of an atypical non-profit partly alone. It feels like a narrow general intelligence with a lot of knowledge. Narrow in the sense that it is only text based, but general in the sense that it did very well handling these complex questions. It felt like an expert in all the random little things I have personally been focused on in my philosophical journey. I've just watched the first Unreal demo. What's funny is I grew up in the redwoods, before the drought at a time when it was considered a temperate rainforest. As I have gotten older I've had to move a little farther from the redwoods, and I feel like I have left a piece of me there. I have always been interested in video game experiences which reproduce the feeling of being in the forest. Recently I got a VR headset and have been having conversations with my friends about how much I'd like to create more accurate forest environments so I can feel like I am there even when I'm not able to get out there. So I am an ideal audience to appreciate these video game engine demos. And they look nice! But GPT-4 is much more significant to me. It is providing me detailed feedback and advice on how I can manage my career and my life in ways which are really energizing. When I write scripts for my youtube videos, I know I will be able to ask it for specific advice on topics to consider, or parts of it which I might be able to improve. I am not going to do what some high school students do and have it do all of my writing for me, as my personal voice and expression matters a lot to me. But what I will do is share with it my writing and ask for feedback based on my ideals and goals. It can serve as a teacher providing feedback on my work. That is much, much more valuable to me than an improved video game engine. This is going to be an ally in my career and help me feel as though I don't have to do all the thinking alone.
ofrzeta 4y ago
It looks good but doesn't really blow me away. Ten seconds into the demo I keep thinking, I've seen stuff like this before and the jungle immediately seems to be dead, not a single leaf moving etc. I mean the level of detail is amazing but there's still the question of how much value does it add to the game in the end. And: how good does MetaHuman, impressive as it is, need to get to escape the Uncanny Valley? Or does it ever?
- richardjam73 4y ago
  Most jungles are very still unless you go to the top of the canopy. All the plants block the wind.
tayo42 4y ago
Not surprised this didn't do well. YouTube videos are a time commitment, plus you need sound. I'm almost never somewhere where I can watch a video on the spot. I suspect most on this site prefer skimable text content. I personally hate videos

shaunxcode 4y ago

Heh bear in mind they limit how much you can use gpt4 before telling you to wait for 2 hours. Right when my plot for a 4th LOTR book called “Redemption of Sauron” was getting good. Honestly the best use of gpt that I have come up with.

qwerty3344 4y ago
just use the API which has no limit
- shaunxcode 4y ago
  yeah I thought by paying the 20 I would have API access but sadly this is not the case thus the web interface.