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> Then don’t look for a similar size home? Why not ? the employer gets the full 40 hours

paulcole 4y ago
I’m really struggling how what your employer “gets” has to do with this. Regardless, my point is that anyone who says, “I’d have to pay 6x as much for the same house near Manhattan as in Iowa” has a truly unrealistic view of living near Manhattan. You make do with less space than you’d “like” and get the benefits of living near Manhattan. If that tradeoff isn’t appealing to you, keep the remote job and stay in Iowa.
- gtop3 4y ago
  Moving to a central office location has real costs associated with it. If I were to live near Manhattan or SV I could spend 6x and get comparative housing, or I spend 2x and live somewhere smaller but adequate. I am in a position that I could do either of those things. I don't want to, because I think it's a bad use of my money. I understand the city has benefits. Been there, done that. I don't have an unrealistic view, I just have preferences, and a detailed understanding how different markets meet my preferences.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    I’m not sure if you think you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me here. I’m saying that it’s unrealistic to expect to pay $X in Manhattan and $X in Iowa and to get identical living arrangements. That’s it. If your employer is located in Manhattan and requires in-office work, your employer doesn’t care that you can’t afford the McMansion of your dreams in Midtown. You just need to make a choice that is realistic: move and get a smaller place and commute to the office or find a remote job and stay in Iowa.
- foogazi 4y ago
  Work is a trade of my time for money My employer gets the same time in both locations, but in one I get a big house and the other one I get “the smallest apartment available” and ride the subway
  - paulcole 4y ago
    Right and a big house isn’t a benefit to everyone and riding the subway isn’t the burn you think it is to everyone. If you want to trade your time for money at a job that requires in-office work in Manhattan, either hope that job pays a ton of money so you can get a big place, accept a smaller place, or find a new job.

I’m really struggling how what your employer “gets” has to do with this. Regardless, my point is that anyone who says, “I’d have to pay 6x as much for the same house near Manhattan as in Iowa” has a truly unrealistic view of living near Manhattan. You make do with less space than you’d “like” and get the benefits of living near Manhattan. If that tradeoff isn’t appealing to you, keep the remote job and stay in Iowa.

gtop3 4y ago
Moving to a central office location has real costs associated with it. If I were to live near Manhattan or SV I could spend 6x and get comparative housing, or I spend 2x and live somewhere smaller but adequate. I am in a position that I could do either of those things. I don't want to, because I think it's a bad use of my money. I understand the city has benefits. Been there, done that. I don't have an unrealistic view, I just have preferences, and a detailed understanding how different markets meet my preferences.
- paulcole 4y ago
  I’m not sure if you think you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me here. I’m saying that it’s unrealistic to expect to pay $X in Manhattan and $X in Iowa and to get identical living arrangements. That’s it. If your employer is located in Manhattan and requires in-office work, your employer doesn’t care that you can’t afford the McMansion of your dreams in Midtown. You just need to make a choice that is realistic: move and get a smaller place and commute to the office or find a remote job and stay in Iowa.
foogazi 4y ago
Work is a trade of my time for money My employer gets the same time in both locations, but in one I get a big house and the other one I get “the smallest apartment available” and ride the subway
- paulcole 4y ago
  Right and a big house isn’t a benefit to everyone and riding the subway isn’t the burn you think it is to everyone. If you want to trade your time for money at a job that requires in-office work in Manhattan, either hope that job pays a ton of money so you can get a big place, accept a smaller place, or find a new job.