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I'm doing that since day one. I can't believe people are pasting real data into this corporate black boxes.

Teever 4y ago
To your average user who interfaces with these figurative black boxes with a black box in their hand, how is this particular black box any different than the other black boxes that this user hands their data to every second of every day?
- ChatPGT 4y ago
  No idea
- mc32 4y ago
  Those typically have MSAs with legalese where parties stipulate what they will and will not do and often whether or not it’s zero knowledge and often option to have your own instance encryption keys. If people are using the free version of chatGPT then it’s unlikely there is a contract between the companies and more likely just a terms of use applied by chatGPT and ignored by the users.
- serf 4y ago
  there are plenty of disallowed 'black boxes' within the federal sphere; chatgpt is just yet another. to take a stab at your question, though : my cell phone doesn't learn to get better by absorbing my telecommunications; it's just used as a means to spy on my personal life by The Powers That Be. The primary purpose of my cell phone is for the conveyance of telecommunications. chatGPT hordes data for training and self-improvement in its' current state. It's whole modus operandi involves the capture of data, rather than it being used for that tangentially. It could not meaningfully exist without training on something, and at this stage of the game it's the trend to self-train with user data. Until that trend changes people should probably be a bit more suspect about what kind of stuff gets thrown into the training bin.
gwright 4y ago
What about Google Docs, Office 365, Github, AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, JIRA, Zendesk, etc? What is different about ChatGPT (if anything)?
- Terretta 4y ago
  To quote a children's TV show: "Which ones of these things are not like the other ones?" Some of those are document tools working on language / knowledge. Others are infrastructure, working on ... whatever your infra does, and your infra manages your data (knowledge). If you read their data policies, you'll find they are not the same.
- ChatPGT 4y ago
  Dont use any of it
  - steve_mcdougall 4y ago
    [flagged]
- libraryatnight 4y ago
  We have data standards and agreements with those companies, we pay them to have expectations. Even then, we're strict about what touches vendor servers and it's audited and monitored. Accounts are managed by us and tied into onboarding and offboarding. If they have a security incident, they notify, there's response and remediation. ChatGPT seems to be used more like a fast stackoverflow, except people aren't thinking of it like a forum where others will see their question so they aren't as cautious. We're just waiting for some company's data to show up remixed into an answer for someone else and then plastered all over the internet for the infosec lulz of the week.
  - senko 4y ago
    > We have data standards and agreements with those companies, we pay them to have expectations. Even then, we're strict about what touches vendor servers and it's audited and monitored. Accounts are managed by us and tied into onboarding and offboarding. For every company like yours there are hundreds that don't. People use free gmail address for sensitive company stuff, paste random things in random pastebins, put their private keys in public repos, etc. Yes, data leaks from OpenAI are bound to happen (again), and they should beef up their security practices. But thinking people are using only ChatGPT in an insecure way vastly overestimates their security practices elsewhere. The solution is education, not avoiding new tools.
throwawaysleep 4y ago
I simply don't give a crap if my employer loses data. I don't care if my carelessness costs my employer a billion bucks down the line as I won't be working for them next year.
- heartbreak 4y ago
  Writing that is a really good way to end up on the wrong side of a civil suit.
  - qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
    I have a addon, were every other sentence is generated by Chat GPT. Good luck holding me liable for a robots actions.
    - ddalex 4y ago
      "I do not take any kind of responsibility about what I'm doing, or not doing, or thinking about doing or not doing, or thinking about whenever I should be doing or not doing, or thinking about whenever I should be thinking about doing or not doing".
    - TeMPOraL 4y ago
      Unless you can prove a given sentence was generated by ChatGPT, it will be assumed it wasn't.
      - qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
        As a moral questionable answering robot however, i must aks, why all things else should be tainted by the machinery, but evidence like text should not?
- goatlover 4y ago
  Why don’t you feel any responsibility?

To your average user who interfaces with these figurative black boxes with a black box in their hand, how is this particular black box any different than the other black boxes that this user hands their data to every second of every day?

ChatPGT 4y ago
No idea
mc32 4y ago
Those typically have MSAs with legalese where parties stipulate what they will and will not do and often whether or not it’s zero knowledge and often option to have your own instance encryption keys. If people are using the free version of chatGPT then it’s unlikely there is a contract between the companies and more likely just a terms of use applied by chatGPT and ignored by the users.
serf 4y ago
there are plenty of disallowed 'black boxes' within the federal sphere; chatgpt is just yet another. to take a stab at your question, though : my cell phone doesn't learn to get better by absorbing my telecommunications; it's just used as a means to spy on my personal life by The Powers That Be. The primary purpose of my cell phone is for the conveyance of telecommunications. chatGPT hordes data for training and self-improvement in its' current state. It's whole modus operandi involves the capture of data, rather than it being used for that tangentially. It could not meaningfully exist without training on something, and at this stage of the game it's the trend to self-train with user data. Until that trend changes people should probably be a bit more suspect about what kind of stuff gets thrown into the training bin.

gwright 4y ago

What about Google Docs, Office 365, Github, AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, JIRA, Zendesk, etc? What is different about ChatGPT (if anything)?

Terretta 4y ago
To quote a children's TV show: "Which ones of these things are not like the other ones?" Some of those are document tools working on language / knowledge. Others are infrastructure, working on ... whatever your infra does, and your infra manages your data (knowledge). If you read their data policies, you'll find they are not the same.
ChatPGT 4y ago
Dont use any of it
- steve_mcdougall 4y ago
  [flagged]
libraryatnight 4y ago
We have data standards and agreements with those companies, we pay them to have expectations. Even then, we're strict about what touches vendor servers and it's audited and monitored. Accounts are managed by us and tied into onboarding and offboarding. If they have a security incident, they notify, there's response and remediation. ChatGPT seems to be used more like a fast stackoverflow, except people aren't thinking of it like a forum where others will see their question so they aren't as cautious. We're just waiting for some company's data to show up remixed into an answer for someone else and then plastered all over the internet for the infosec lulz of the week.
- senko 4y ago
  > We have data standards and agreements with those companies, we pay them to have expectations. Even then, we're strict about what touches vendor servers and it's audited and monitored. Accounts are managed by us and tied into onboarding and offboarding. For every company like yours there are hundreds that don't. People use free gmail address for sensitive company stuff, paste random things in random pastebins, put their private keys in public repos, etc. Yes, data leaks from OpenAI are bound to happen (again), and they should beef up their security practices. But thinking people are using only ChatGPT in an insecure way vastly overestimates their security practices elsewhere. The solution is education, not avoiding new tools.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

I simply don't give a crap if my employer loses data. I don't care if my carelessness costs my employer a billion bucks down the line as I won't be working for them next year.

heartbreak 4y ago
Writing that is a really good way to end up on the wrong side of a civil suit.
- qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
  I have a addon, were every other sentence is generated by Chat GPT. Good luck holding me liable for a robots actions.
  - ddalex 4y ago
    "I do not take any kind of responsibility about what I'm doing, or not doing, or thinking about doing or not doing, or thinking about whenever I should be doing or not doing, or thinking about whenever I should be thinking about doing or not doing".
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago
    Unless you can prove a given sentence was generated by ChatGPT, it will be assumed it wasn't.
    - qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
      As a moral questionable answering robot however, i must aks, why all things else should be tainted by the machinery, but evidence like text should not?
goatlover 4y ago
Why don’t you feel any responsibility?