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Do you not have any hobbies that you pay for? When I was deep in the C# ecosystem, I personally paid for my own JetBrain license. Do you also not pay someone

Do you not have any hobbies that you pay for? When I was deep in the C# ecosystem, I personally paid for my own JetBrain license. Do you also not pay someone to host your web apps?

sccxy 4y ago
It is not only $99. It is $500+ (used) computer also. Cannot use your old PC do develop iOS apps. $99 may be nothing for most HN users, but for 3rd world developer...
- true_religion 4y ago
  I’m a third world developer. In the third world, at least in Ghana, iPhones are over represented in the middle class and by association many people have MacBooks. This means there is a glut of older models in second hand market or passed down to kids, cousins, and family friends. The problem with the 99 dollars is that it’s payable yearly. Yes someone might sponsor you once and give you enough for a single year but they won’t do it ever year. You have to make enough yourself and that’s a tall order of business if you are a student. Thus no one learns iOS development first.
- philistine 4y ago
  I get that PCs are more common but you can't classify that as a recurring cost. I mean, if your computer is a Mac than there's no cost. It's only if you're using a PC that you have to get a Mac to develop for iOS etc. But I totally get you, Apple is but one company and they've completely bungled reasonable prices in many countries, for example India.
explaininjs 4y ago
I use Cloudflare free tier and am trialing Fly.up free tier for always-on servers as needed (websockets, etc.)
krono 4y ago
Paying for the privilege of getting to fill gaps and solve problems on my device operating system that the recipient of those payments who also happens to control said device and operating system refuses to resolve or has even purposefully introduced. Yeah, no thanks.. I'll pass.
- scarface74 4y ago
  So are you saying that Apple should produce any app that anyone ever might need? Do you feel the same way about console makers?
  - krono 4y ago
    That's not at all what I'm saying, you are putting words in my mouth. "I'm not paying for the privilege of..." Edit: A continuation of the above but paraphrased from my previous comment: ...being allowed to step over this ridiculous barrier to implement these fixes myself on my own device.

Do you not have any hobbies that you pay for? When I was deep in the C# ecosystem, I personally paid for my own JetBrain license. Do you also not pay someone to host your web apps?

sccxy 4y ago

It is not only $99. It is $500+ (used) computer also. Cannot use your old PC do develop iOS apps. $99 may be nothing for most HN users, but for 3rd world developer...

true_religion 4y ago
I’m a third world developer. In the third world, at least in Ghana, iPhones are over represented in the middle class and by association many people have MacBooks. This means there is a glut of older models in second hand market or passed down to kids, cousins, and family friends. The problem with the 99 dollars is that it’s payable yearly. Yes someone might sponsor you once and give you enough for a single year but they won’t do it ever year. You have to make enough yourself and that’s a tall order of business if you are a student. Thus no one learns iOS development first.
philistine 4y ago
I get that PCs are more common but you can't classify that as a recurring cost. I mean, if your computer is a Mac than there's no cost. It's only if you're using a PC that you have to get a Mac to develop for iOS etc. But I totally get you, Apple is but one company and they've completely bungled reasonable prices in many countries, for example India.

explaininjs 4y ago

I use Cloudflare free tier and am trialing Fly.up free tier for always-on servers as needed (websockets, etc.)

krono 4y ago

Paying for the privilege of getting to fill gaps and solve problems on my device operating system that the recipient of those payments who also happens to control said device and operating system refuses to resolve or has even purposefully introduced. Yeah, no thanks.. I'll pass.

scarface74 4y ago
So are you saying that Apple should produce any app that anyone ever might need? Do you feel the same way about console makers?
- krono 4y ago
  That's not at all what I'm saying, you are putting words in my mouth. "I'm not paying for the privilege of..." Edit: A continuation of the above but paraphrased from my previous comment: ...being allowed to step over this ridiculous barrier to implement these fixes myself on my own device.