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We went pretty quickly from: No way I’m giving Google any of my data! I will use 5 different browsers in incognito mode and never log in. To -> Sure I will l
by baxtr 4y ago
We went pretty quickly from:
No way I’m giving Google any of my data! I will use 5 different browsers in incognito mode and never log in.
To ->
Sure I will login with my name and email and feed you as much of my most personal thoughts and data as I can dear ChatGPT!
- grammers 4y agoNot quite. These are the same people that use only Chrome while being logged in to their Google account. Convenience wins.
- smt88 4y ago> These are the same people that use only Chrome while being logged in to their Google account This situation is much dumber than that. ChatGPT is very clear that you shouldn't give it private data and that anything you type into it can/will be used for training. Google is nowhere near that level of transparency.
- contravariant 4y agoAny examples where those two were the same person? Because both types of people have always existed. Heck, lack of vigilance among the ancient Greeks is what put the Trojan in Trojan horse.
- smodo 4y agoIt was a lack of vigilance among the Trojans, actually. The Greeks did the burning an pillaging. So uh OpenAI is the Greeks, ChatGPT is the horse and Microsoft is king Menelaos or something. Achilles is dead, but he did make TempleOS.
- croes 4y agoI bet you find some on HN. Sometimes couriosity beats caution.
- tintedfireglass 4y agoyes, without thinking I put a lot of data into bing chat and then I realized what I had done :(
- philsquared_ 4y agoGoogle takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder. Is OpenAI doing that? If Google existed in its current form during the early internet it would be classified in the same category as Bonzai Buddy. Spyware. That is what Google is. So I can very reasonably understand why people would trust OpenAI with data they wouldn't trust Google with. OpenAI hasn't spit in the face of its users yet.
- noncoml 4y ago> Google takes your data and sells it. Literally making your data available to the highest bidder. Even if they are not doing it now(?), what makes you think that they will not do so in the future? It's not like your data has an expiration date.
- philsquared_ 4y agoBecause they are completely different business models. If OpenAI decides to become an advertising behemoth then I would show concern. Right now they use your data for training (when they use it).
- JohnFen 4y agoOpenAI has already demonstrated that they're all in for maximizing profit. They may not be advertisers, but advertisers aren't the only sorts of companies that make bank by selling personal data. I see no reason to think OpenAI would leave that money on the table.
- Jensson 4y agoOpenAI is selling others data in their model responses. Selling others data is their main business model. If it uses user data to train their models other users could ask "Show me the code for gmail spam filters", and if it was trained on engineers refactoring that spam filter in ChatGPT chances are it would give you the code. If that doesn't count as "selling user data" I don't know what is. They not only sell it, they nicely package and rewrite it to make it easy to avoid copyright claims!
- bcrosby95 4y agoMy problem with Google is they'll ban me from gmail for something I do on youtube.