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I don't understand what's bad/wrong with filtering out trans people (except that it's contra the mainstream woke agenda). What if you're dating to have (biolog

by tomp 4y ago

I don't understand what's bad/wrong with filtering out trans people (except that it's contra the mainstream woke agenda). What if you're dating to have (biological) kids?

monksy 4y ago
It goes against their rules and conduct guidelines based on emotional manipulation hinged on intrinsic values that Americans hold on fairness, equality, and societal support for 'disadvantaged' individuals. I have a feeling someone is going to reply with a hostile response, but my root stance at an OLD is to support people being who they are and help people get together consensually to get it on.
- 4gotunameagain 4y ago
  I would definitely like to keep some non-existing ideals of fairness and equality in America out of my bedroom and personal life. This is spilling over to non-Americans as well. As for the lack of existence of societal support for 'disadvantaged' individuals, have you seen the practically modern slave labour in prisons ? Have you seen the homelessness and opioid epidemics that nothing is being done for ? I would much rather help these folks before helping social media addicted upper middle class kids. They have enough help already.
  - cmh89 4y ago
    >I would definitely like to keep some non-existing ideals of fairness and equality in America out of my bedroom and personal life Don't use American services then? Unless I'm missing something, you don't have to use any online dating platform at all, more so not one that is based in the United States.
    - 4gotunameagain 4y ago
      This is not exactly how imperialism works. The export of American culture is the most massive export of culture humanity has experienced. It is simply unavoidable in the West.
      - cmh89 4y ago
        Ah, so you mean most be actually enjoy it and don't share your concern.
        monksy 4y ago
        How do you know that if the platform has already removed them?
    - monksy 4y ago
      From my understanding most Americans are centrists and have established a status quo that is neutral on the LGBT+ group [other than the negative social pressure related to that group has pushed]. The newer contracts and deplatforming has been based on progressive idealogy violently put in place. I would say that most Americans want nothing to do with that in their bedrooms, but when we have to deal with that from our platforms we have to.
      - cmh89 4y ago
        >From my understanding most Americans are centrists and have established a status quo that is neutral on the LGBT+ group Can you point to anything substantial that supports this idea? The majority of Americans support same-sex marriage [1], and almost three-quarters of Americans (71%) said that being gay is morally acceptable [2]. Most Americans are liberal, which is why platforms move to ban hate mongers and extremists. Instagram doesn't care in the slightest about protecting LGBTQ folks. They just understand that most people don't want to participate in a hateful cesspit. There is a reason that Truth Social and whatever right-wing trash app comes next will never gain any sort of mainstream traction, most people support deplatforming hate mongers. [1]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/11/15/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-legalization-of-same-sex-marriage-is-good-for-society/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/11/15/about-six-i... [2]https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
snozolli 4y ago
I don't understand what's bad/wrong with filtering out trans people That's not even what the parent comment was talking about.

by tomp 4y ago

I don't understand what's bad/wrong with filtering out trans people (except that it's contra the mainstream woke agenda). What if you're dating to have (biological) kids?

monksy 4y ago

It goes against their rules and conduct guidelines based on emotional manipulation hinged on intrinsic values that Americans hold on fairness, equality, and societal support for 'disadvantaged' individuals. I have a feeling someone is going to reply with a hostile response, but my root stance at an OLD is to support people being who they are and help people get together consensually to get it on.

4gotunameagain 4y ago
I would definitely like to keep some non-existing ideals of fairness and equality in America out of my bedroom and personal life. This is spilling over to non-Americans as well. As for the lack of existence of societal support for 'disadvantaged' individuals, have you seen the practically modern slave labour in prisons ? Have you seen the homelessness and opioid epidemics that nothing is being done for ? I would much rather help these folks before helping social media addicted upper middle class kids. They have enough help already.
- cmh89 4y ago
  >I would definitely like to keep some non-existing ideals of fairness and equality in America out of my bedroom and personal life Don't use American services then? Unless I'm missing something, you don't have to use any online dating platform at all, more so not one that is based in the United States.
  - 4gotunameagain 4y ago
    This is not exactly how imperialism works. The export of American culture is the most massive export of culture humanity has experienced. It is simply unavoidable in the West.
    - cmh89 4y ago
      Ah, so you mean most be actually enjoy it and don't share your concern.
      - monksy 4y ago
        How do you know that if the platform has already removed them?
  - monksy 4y ago
    From my understanding most Americans are centrists and have established a status quo that is neutral on the LGBT+ group [other than the negative social pressure related to that group has pushed]. The newer contracts and deplatforming has been based on progressive idealogy violently put in place. I would say that most Americans want nothing to do with that in their bedrooms, but when we have to deal with that from our platforms we have to.
    - cmh89 4y ago
      >From my understanding most Americans are centrists and have established a status quo that is neutral on the LGBT+ group Can you point to anything substantial that supports this idea? The majority of Americans support same-sex marriage [1], and almost three-quarters of Americans (71%) said that being gay is morally acceptable [2]. Most Americans are liberal, which is why platforms move to ban hate mongers and extremists. Instagram doesn't care in the slightest about protecting LGBTQ folks. They just understand that most people don't want to participate in a hateful cesspit. There is a reason that Truth Social and whatever right-wing trash app comes next will never gain any sort of mainstream traction, most people support deplatforming hate mongers. [1]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/11/15/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-legalization-of-same-sex-marriage-is-good-for-society/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/11/15/about-six-i... [2]https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

snozolli 4y ago

I don't understand what's bad/wrong with filtering out trans people That's not even what the parent comment was talking about.