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Warn: is opinionated Btw I switched lots of projects from rails to padrino due to the slow performances of rails. I built a small test suite where you can fin

by DAddYEz 15y ago

Warn: is opinionated Btw I switched lots of projects from rails to padrino due to the slow performances of rails. I built a small test suite where you can find that Padrino is upto 4x faster than rails. Check it out: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark Feel free to show me that Im wrong.

nyrb 15y ago
I am not against the Padrino web framework. I still like it. :-) So your benchmark only have tested against the small "Hello World" app. Maybe that's why I suggested that Padrino framework is pretty ideal for small/personal/API projects for fastest responses. Have you tried benchmarking your one of biggest padrino apps?
- DAddYEz 15y ago
  That's not 100% true, there are more than `hello world` benchs. Check it out here: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/tree/more_advanced https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/tree/more... Yep, speed is 4-6x faster, but most important for me is memory usage is much much less. On every Rails project I need to use monit/god to stop/start when for xx cycles memory is > 100mb or so. Without that a rails project can sucks 1-2gb of ram. Isn't quite normal to my standards, in fact generally Padrino doesn't need more than 70mb. But here a lot of work must to be do.
  - nyrb 15y ago
    Sorry if I have to ask, what part is not 100% true? You mean that padrino app can be still faster with large app? You said there are more than "Hello World" benchmarks? I looked at the link that you provided and then looked at this source code of the Padrino app and its still "Hello World": https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/controllers/main.rb https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... I expected to see something more than just Hello World app. I am trying to see why you are suggesting me that Padrino is better than Rails. :-) Sounds like you are completely against Rails. Maybe I am wrong.
    - DAddYEz 15y ago
      It's quite complicated make a full featured app for all webframeworks, btw look at here: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/controllers/main.rb#L7 https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... Which is: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/views/index.haml https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... With a layout: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/views/layouts/application.haml https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... Not a very very complex use case but a bit more than a `hello world` app. I love Rails, Im using i.e. ActiveRecord in 90% of my projects. Beside that I ported 162 apps over Padrino not because I've free time to spend but because I need decent performances (without kongfu with mem/redis caching) with less memory usage. Try to browse rails (minus ActiveRecord) source code and padrino source code to understand what I mean.

by DAddYEz 15y ago

nyrb 15y ago

I am not against the Padrino web framework. I still like it. :-) So your benchmark only have tested against the small "Hello World" app. Maybe that's why I suggested that Padrino framework is pretty ideal for small/personal/API projects for fastest responses. Have you tried benchmarking your one of biggest padrino apps?

DAddYEz 15y ago
That's not 100% true, there are more than `hello world` benchs. Check it out here: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/tree/more_advanced https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/tree/more... Yep, speed is 4-6x faster, but most important for me is memory usage is much much less. On every Rails project I need to use monit/god to stop/start when for xx cycles memory is > 100mb or so. Without that a rails project can sucks 1-2gb of ram. Isn't quite normal to my standards, in fact generally Padrino doesn't need more than 70mb. But here a lot of work must to be do.
- nyrb 15y ago
  Sorry if I have to ask, what part is not 100% true? You mean that padrino app can be still faster with large app? You said there are more than "Hello World" benchmarks? I looked at the link that you provided and then looked at this source code of the Padrino app and its still "Hello World": https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/controllers/main.rb https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... I expected to see something more than just Hello World app. I am trying to see why you are suggesting me that Padrino is better than Rails. :-) Sounds like you are completely against Rails. Maybe I am wrong.
  - DAddYEz 15y ago
    It's quite complicated make a full featured app for all webframeworks, btw look at here: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/controllers/main.rb#L7 https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... Which is: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/views/index.haml https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... With a layout: https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more_advanced/padrino/app/views/layouts/application.haml https://github.com/DAddYE/web-frameworks-benchmark/blob/more... Not a very very complex use case but a bit more than a `hello world` app. I love Rails, Im using i.e. ActiveRecord in 90% of my projects. Beside that I ported 162 apps over Padrino not because I've free time to spend but because I need decent performances (without kongfu with mem/redis caching) with less memory usage. Try to browse rails (minus ActiveRecord) source code and padrino source code to understand what I mean.