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There are a few people in my circle that are overburdened by conspiracy theories to the point where they think that humans are corrupt and everyone is out to ge

There are a few people in my circle that are overburdened by conspiracy theories to the point where they think that humans are corrupt and everyone is out to get them. It's exhausting to live like that. My goal is to be my 13 yr old self's hero. Do cool stuff, be in a good relationship, and fix things that bother me to the best of my ability.

TMWNN 4y ago
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- hutzlibu 4y ago
  And those left people then started believing in Q and drank desinfection to cure covid?
  - eldritch_4ier 4y ago
    To be fair there are way more leftists who think trump is as bad as hitler as there are conservatives who believe in the Q stuff. Most conservatives don't even understand what Qanon even is other than a catchall for "conspiracy theories".
  - TMWNN 4y ago
    The non-crazy right laughs at, ignores, or (as eldritch_4ier said) mostly does not know what "Q" is. The left's equivalents to QAnon get 17.5K upvotes and 2.5K comments on /r/politics, articles in The Atlantic, and nightly IT'S HAPPENINGs on Maddow.
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      The right literally elected several of these people into congress, and they are actively getting their way so that McCarthy could have his speaker seat.
- PeterisP 4y ago
  Indeed, for many people on both sides it was (and is!) quite a shocking revelation that in their surroundings there is a huge number of people who don't just disagree on opinions or facts but have completely contradictory values, one side praising that which the other deems as clearly, obviously evil, and vice versa. I'd argue that this comes from a change in media - where previously you had a clear consensus either in the small community you lived in earlier times, or country-wide with the advent of mass media, and even if you'd disagree with that, then you still can't avoid knowing what the surrounding reality was; but now with personalized social media, so many people get a false impression of the actual social consensus around them, because they communicate much less with people around them but rather communicate in an "information community" which is larger geographically (often global), and which is different from the actual community where they live and which makes laws for their life; so they perceive that the "community standards" go one way (in the way which their "online information community" thinks) but then reality crashes in with something totally different, and this does "break people's minds" in some way.
- pathartl 4y ago
  These people I'm referencing generally lean more towards libertarian or anarcho-capital.
- birracerveza 4y ago
  Weird take, I've seen nothing but seething insanity from the right ever since Biden got elected.
- otikik 4y ago
  At least they had brains to be broken.
908B64B197 4y ago
Remember how, just a few months ago, one could get banned from Social media for suggesting Covid-19 originated in a lab? "Fact Checkers" were hard at work silencing that content and attributing it to "conspiracy theorists". Now the lab leak hypothesis is mainstream, with experts supporting investigating the labs in Wuhan and bringing in evidence that the disease indeed originated in a Chinese lab. Sometimes, it seems the difference between facts and conspiracy is 6 months or another presidential administration, whichever comes first!
- cachecrab 4y ago
  Lab leak != lab origination. It could have escaped the lab, but that doesn't mean it was created there.
- barrysteve 4y ago
  Uhh. The facts are off the map for media companies and the government media. Society alternates between 3 functions. Hiding away facts, milking good times and taking valuable resources off the map. We're just the weird people who remember the old-school world, where the public knowing the facts was a point of order and the science would settle it all. Conspiracies theories appear to sound the alarm on it all, but they have no unique, private facts to share with the public, just like everyone else.
- skyyler 4y ago
  This is the stuff that is exhausting. Why focus on it? What good does it bring to you?
  - 908B64B197 4y ago
    "Why keep looking at the stars through these telescopes? We all know the Earth is at the center of the Universe, the Pope said so. What good does it bring to you?"
    - skyyler 4y ago
      I find it disingenuous to conflate “consuming news media” with “looking at the stars through telescopes”…
jahsome 4y ago
Hear hear! Our current and 13 year old selves sound like we could be a lot alike! I'm really doing my best to make past/teenage me proud. I know about 5 years ago, I'd probably have kicked my own butt.

TMWNN 4y ago

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hutzlibu 4y ago
And those left people then started believing in Q and drank desinfection to cure covid?
- eldritch_4ier 4y ago
  To be fair there are way more leftists who think trump is as bad as hitler as there are conservatives who believe in the Q stuff. Most conservatives don't even understand what Qanon even is other than a catchall for "conspiracy theories".
- TMWNN 4y ago
  The non-crazy right laughs at, ignores, or (as eldritch_4ier said) mostly does not know what "Q" is. The left's equivalents to QAnon get 17.5K upvotes and 2.5K comments on /r/politics, articles in The Atlantic, and nightly IT'S HAPPENINGs on Maddow.
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    The right literally elected several of these people into congress, and they are actively getting their way so that McCarthy could have his speaker seat.
PeterisP 4y ago
Indeed, for many people on both sides it was (and is!) quite a shocking revelation that in their surroundings there is a huge number of people who don't just disagree on opinions or facts but have completely contradictory values, one side praising that which the other deems as clearly, obviously evil, and vice versa. I'd argue that this comes from a change in media - where previously you had a clear consensus either in the small community you lived in earlier times, or country-wide with the advent of mass media, and even if you'd disagree with that, then you still can't avoid knowing what the surrounding reality was; but now with personalized social media, so many people get a false impression of the actual social consensus around them, because they communicate much less with people around them but rather communicate in an "information community" which is larger geographically (often global), and which is different from the actual community where they live and which makes laws for their life; so they perceive that the "community standards" go one way (in the way which their "online information community" thinks) but then reality crashes in with something totally different, and this does "break people's minds" in some way.
pathartl 4y ago
These people I'm referencing generally lean more towards libertarian or anarcho-capital.
birracerveza 4y ago
Weird take, I've seen nothing but seething insanity from the right ever since Biden got elected.
otikik 4y ago
At least they had brains to be broken.

908B64B197 4y ago

Remember how, just a few months ago, one could get banned from Social media for suggesting Covid-19 originated in a lab? "Fact Checkers" were hard at work silencing that content and attributing it to "conspiracy theorists". Now the lab leak hypothesis is mainstream, with experts supporting investigating the labs in Wuhan and bringing in evidence that the disease indeed originated in a Chinese lab. Sometimes, it seems the difference between facts and conspiracy is 6 months or another presidential administration, whichever comes first!

cachecrab 4y ago
Lab leak != lab origination. It could have escaped the lab, but that doesn't mean it was created there.
barrysteve 4y ago
Uhh. The facts are off the map for media companies and the government media. Society alternates between 3 functions. Hiding away facts, milking good times and taking valuable resources off the map. We're just the weird people who remember the old-school world, where the public knowing the facts was a point of order and the science would settle it all. Conspiracies theories appear to sound the alarm on it all, but they have no unique, private facts to share with the public, just like everyone else.
skyyler 4y ago
This is the stuff that is exhausting. Why focus on it? What good does it bring to you?
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  "Why keep looking at the stars through these telescopes? We all know the Earth is at the center of the Universe, the Pope said so. What good does it bring to you?"
  - skyyler 4y ago
    I find it disingenuous to conflate “consuming news media” with “looking at the stars through telescopes”…

jahsome 4y ago

Hear hear! Our current and 13 year old selves sound like we could be a lot alike! I'm really doing my best to make past/teenage me proud. I know about 5 years ago, I'd probably have kicked my own butt.