> I suspect also (without ever having used it) that a good chunk of Teams’ slowness will be in communications pieces that are nothing to do with web tech. Ding

> I suspect also (without ever having used it) that a good chunk of Teams’ slowness will be in communications pieces that are nothing to do with web tech. Ding ding ding. This is the winner. I have yet to see someone who is bitching about Electron actually show that the render time in the client is really what's causing the performance issues. Almost always the issue is that fetching/updating a remote resource is just slow. It's SO freaking slow compared to local access. Worse - almost every other aspect of computing is actually getting quite a bit faster, but RTT isn't going to change. --- In this case, I'm willing to bet actual money that most of the speedup is hiding in what they're calling the "Client data layer" here: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/new_teams_graph.png https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/new_teams_...