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Does anyone have any data on how much use Morse Code still gets today? Are there any people still using it actively for communication, or are there literally ze

Does anyone have any data on how much use Morse Code still gets today? Are there any people still using it actively for communication, or are there literally zero practical applications anymore?

biggieshellz 4y ago
Plenty of use today in amateur radio, especially amongst QRPers (low power enthusiasts, signals <= 5 watts). It's easy to build transmitters/receivers for, and it's more efficient than, say, voice modes like SSB in terms of spectrum usage and how far you can get per watt.
ksherlock 4y ago
In aviation, VOR stations broadcast their identifier in morse (so you can confirm it's the right station) but VOR is being killed off in favor of GPS.
- seabass-labrax 4y ago
  NDB stations, an even older type of radio navigation beacon, also broadcast their identifier like this. I fancy they might even outlast VORs due to how much cheaper they are to operate. The real survivor though might be the ILS (Instrument Landing System): ILS transmitters broadcast their identifier in Morse code, as did the prototypical Lorenz systems, making them very nearly a century old already (Lorenz systems were first installed in the 1930s). ILS approaches are the most common type for commercial aviation in most countries.
  - VBprogrammer 4y ago
    The one navaid likely to be around for the foreseeable future is DME. Which sounds slightly strange if you know a bit about aviation, you probably know it as slightly subservient to VOR as in VOR/DME. However, taking a number of DME fixes is a common (though slightly outdated) way of updating a fix for an aircrafts inertial navigation system.
- imoverclocked 4y ago
  I think a minimum viable VOR network is planned to be maintained as a backup to GPS.
  - seabass-labrax 4y ago
    Indeed; Eurocontrol have published a handbook about it: <https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/default/files/2021-10/eurocontrol-navaid-infrastructure-planning-handbook-4-mon-.pdf https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/default/files/2021-10/euro...>. Here's the USA's Federal Aviation Administration's page on the topic: <https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gbng/vormon https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/at...>
kawfey 4y ago
Morse code (aka continuous wave/CW) is in very common use in amateur (ham) radio, predominantly in CW Contesting [0], DXing, and low power (QRP) and portable operations (like parks on the air/POTA, summits on the air/SOTA [1]) as CW an extremely robust, efficient modulation. In other words, a 5w CW signal is roughly equivalent to a 100w voice signal -- more miles per watt. Plus you can fit a lot of signals in less spectrum. It's slower than voice or data modes but you don't need to say much to exchange enough information for a valid contact. And learning Morse code is just fun and a superb mental exercise; amateur radio enables Morse code to be actually useful and enjoyable in the modern era. It's also used for: * amateur radio direction finding/ARDF (radio orienteering) [2] * High speed CW competitions (which used to be much more popular in Eastern Europe) [3] * automatic identification of radio beacons and repeaters (e.g. aviation Navaids like NDBs and VOR, EMS/fire/police/business radios) * backup/emergency communications for governments & armed forces [0] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cw+contest https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cw+contest. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgnEGSLeedg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgnEGSLeedg - the radio displays a spectrum waterfall in which you can see dozens of CW signals. [1] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=parks+on+the+air+cw https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=parks+on+the+ai... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9H8irEMnf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9H8irEMnf4 [3] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+cw+ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+cw+ clarification: CW is a modulation type, on which Morse code is encoded using an on/off carrier wave. Much like how Amplitude Modulation/AM is a modulation on which voice is encoded by changing the amplitude of the carrier wave.
- myth2018 4y ago
  Also worth mentioning the beacons used to assess current propagation conditions
vitaflo 4y ago
There has been a bit of a revival in CW since the pandemic in ham radio. Lots of hams took the time to finally learn it with the extra free time they had. So as far as amateur radio goes, it’s more popular now than it has been in a long time.
- ryanianian 4y ago
  For anyone looking to get serious about learning CW including the "protocol" for using it on amateur radio bands, check out CWAcademy. It's like a group class setting led by volunteer "old timers" who are passionate about the technology and community. I had no prior morse code experience and successfully made my way up to about 15 words per minute over the course of about 5 months. It takes work and patience, but it's a lot of fun. There's a bunch of arduino-based gizmos and other software that hams have made to simulate and teach morse-code-heavy interactions (shout-out to Morserino, Morse Runner, and Morse Code Ninja).
  - kawfey 4y ago
    That, or Long Island CW Club [0] - highly recommend either one. Or Learn CW Online/LCWO [1] for self-led drills and practice in addition to those apps. And definitely avoid charts, graphs, mnemonics, memory hacks, visual aids -- at all costs -- if you want proficiency. [0] https://longislandcwclub.org/ https://longislandcwclub.org/ [1] https://lcwo.net/ https://lcwo.net/
IIAOPSW 4y ago
Last year I was running a semaphore lamp off my fire escape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPE8xHSIaKk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPE8xHSIaKk
myself248 4y ago
Morse code is alive and well, especially during contests where efficiency means performance. There are a few reasons: It has high spectral efficiency; a CW transmission is only a few Hertz wide on the spectrum, whereas even SSB voice needs several kHz. This lets you use very narrow receive filters, to cut out adjacent noise and make contacts in difficult conditions. It can achieve useful communication at very low power, with very simple equipment. Look up "qrp cw kit" and you can get $15 transmitters that you solder together from parts in a few minutes, and these aren't VLSI parts like some wifi chip or whatever, these are single discrete components. Hams love hand-built equipment, or at least the theoretical ability to use hand-built equipment, and QRP (low-power operation) is a hugely popular challenge. It occupies a sweet spot where it's simple enough to encode by hand and decode by ear, but also easy enough for computers to operate. So there's a wide range of automation available, from whole-band decoders to keyboard-interactive QSOs, or you can go completely bare-handed if you prefer. That makes it appeal to more people than a more modern computer-required mode like PSK31 or FT8. (Those have even higher spectral efficiency, though, so they're popular in their own way.) Out of curiosity, what does the CQ in your username refer to?
jabroni_salad 4y ago
A nice thing with CW is that you can get it through some really impressive noise floors. I personally never use it outside of contesting though and that barely counts since it tends to be macros. Also, all amateur stations are required to identify regularly. Relays will ident quietly in morse so it doesn't interrupt the voice comms happening on that channel.
nitsuaeekcm 4y ago
About ten years ago I set custom vibrations for my top contacts on my phone to be the Morse code representation of their initials. Ever since, I’ve had the super power of knowing who is texting or calling me without pulling out my phone. I’d say that alone has made a quick memorization of the alphabet worth it.
- youainti 4y ago
  How did you do that? Do you have an app you recommend?
  - dragontamer 4y ago
    https://stendec.io/morse/koch.html https://stendec.io/morse/koch.html Koch method is to do "full speed" Morse code from the beginning, but only learn 1 or 2 letters at a time. This Javascript page starts with the letters "k" and "m" for Lesson 1. Then, in Lesson 2, you learn "k, m, and r". Etc. etc. The way the app works is click on the "k" to hear how "k" sounds. Then click on "m" for its sound. Finally, hit the "Start Lesson" button, and the computer will make a random mix of k and m (and extended pauses, which means "space"). You type in "k m k mm mmkkm" or similar into the textarea, and the computer then sees how accurate you were.
    - Zecc 4y ago
      Less than six months ago I found this same site and I was practicing religiously multiple times a day. Several weeks ago I interrupted my practice for one reason or another and last time I tried my score had dropped to below 40%. I need to start practicing again. I haven't learned the full alphabet yet. I'm still missing letters q, g, h, z, x,c, v and all the digits. Something I've found interesting is how much difference it made changing the tone frequency. My brain definitely got used to a certain tone initially, and when I first tried changing the tone my recognition ability dropped quite a bit. So now I change it occasionally to keep my brain on its proverbial toes. I wish there was a way to practice just the letters I have more difficulty with; namely, the ones which were added later.
- 4y ago
WalterBright 4y ago
Practical applications include: 1. communicating with other prisoners 2. communicating with the team trying to rescue you in your sunk submarine 3. any place where you're trapped but can bang on something 4. keeping your comms secret because nobody will even know you're using morse 5. secretly communicating with others during class (I knew two sisters in high school who would jibber jabber all through class by signing letters with their hands under the desks). 6. blinking in Morse when the terrorists put you under the TV cameras for your confession 7. your radio setup can only do on/off 8. you cannot remember how smoke signals worked 9. you need to flash a lamp at the airplane who might rescue you And so on.
RedNifre 4y ago
It works great for zero dimensional displays that are far away in brought daylight. For example, the Chaos Computer Club used to hack some rental bikes which had an LED that indicated whether the bike was available or not and the hacked bikes would flash "CCC" in morse code, so you could easily identify the hacked bikes from a distance. I'm not sure about audio morse though, I'd guess voice would be better in all cases there.
- SiVal 4y ago
  It's not. Combine a loud emergency whistle with Morse Code, and you have the ability to signal without any electric power over much longer distances than voice.
  - julian_t 4y ago
    For years the only Morse I knew was how to use a whistle to send SOS. Maybe it's time to learn a few more letters...

Does anyone have any data on how much use Morse Code still gets today? Are there any people still using it actively for communication, or are there literally zero practical applications anymore?

biggieshellz 4y ago

Plenty of use today in amateur radio, especially amongst QRPers (low power enthusiasts, signals <= 5 watts). It's easy to build transmitters/receivers for, and it's more efficient than, say, voice modes like SSB in terms of spectrum usage and how far you can get per watt.

ksherlock 4y ago

In aviation, VOR stations broadcast their identifier in morse (so you can confirm it's the right station) but VOR is being killed off in favor of GPS.

seabass-labrax 4y ago
NDB stations, an even older type of radio navigation beacon, also broadcast their identifier like this. I fancy they might even outlast VORs due to how much cheaper they are to operate. The real survivor though might be the ILS (Instrument Landing System): ILS transmitters broadcast their identifier in Morse code, as did the prototypical Lorenz systems, making them very nearly a century old already (Lorenz systems were first installed in the 1930s). ILS approaches are the most common type for commercial aviation in most countries.
- VBprogrammer 4y ago
  The one navaid likely to be around for the foreseeable future is DME. Which sounds slightly strange if you know a bit about aviation, you probably know it as slightly subservient to VOR as in VOR/DME. However, taking a number of DME fixes is a common (though slightly outdated) way of updating a fix for an aircrafts inertial navigation system.
imoverclocked 4y ago
I think a minimum viable VOR network is planned to be maintained as a backup to GPS.
- seabass-labrax 4y ago
  Indeed; Eurocontrol have published a handbook about it: <https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/default/files/2021-10/eurocontrol-navaid-infrastructure-planning-handbook-4-mon-.pdf https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/default/files/2021-10/euro...>. Here's the USA's Federal Aviation Administration's page on the topic: <https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gbng/vormon https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/at...>

kawfey 4y ago

Morse code (aka continuous wave/CW) is in very common use in amateur (ham) radio, predominantly in CW Contesting [0], DXing, and low power (QRP) and portable operations (like parks on the air/POTA, summits on the air/SOTA [1]) as CW an extremely robust, efficient modulation. In other words, a 5w CW signal is roughly equivalent to a 100w voice signal -- more miles per watt. Plus you can fit a lot of signals in less spectrum. It's slower than voice or data modes but you don't need to say much to exchange enough information for a valid contact. And learning Morse code is just fun and a superb mental exercise; amateur radio enables Morse code to be actually useful and enjoyable in the modern era. It's also used for: * amateur radio direction finding/ARDF (radio orienteering) [2] * High speed CW competitions (which used to be much more popular in Eastern Europe) [3] * automatic identification of radio beacons and repeaters (e.g. aviation Navaids like NDBs and VOR, EMS/fire/police/business radios) * backup/emergency communications for governments & armed forces [0] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cw+contest https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cw+contest. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgnEGSLeedg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgnEGSLeedg - the radio displays a spectrum waterfall in which you can see dozens of CW signals. [1] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=parks+on+the+air+cw https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=parks+on+the+ai... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9H8irEMnf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9H8irEMnf4 [3] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+cw+ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=high+speed+cw+ clarification: CW is a modulation type, on which Morse code is encoded using an on/off carrier wave. Much like how Amplitude Modulation/AM is a modulation on which voice is encoded by changing the amplitude of the carrier wave.

myth2018 4y ago
Also worth mentioning the beacons used to assess current propagation conditions

vitaflo 4y ago

There has been a bit of a revival in CW since the pandemic in ham radio. Lots of hams took the time to finally learn it with the extra free time they had. So as far as amateur radio goes, it’s more popular now than it has been in a long time.

ryanianian 4y ago
For anyone looking to get serious about learning CW including the "protocol" for using it on amateur radio bands, check out CWAcademy. It's like a group class setting led by volunteer "old timers" who are passionate about the technology and community. I had no prior morse code experience and successfully made my way up to about 15 words per minute over the course of about 5 months. It takes work and patience, but it's a lot of fun. There's a bunch of arduino-based gizmos and other software that hams have made to simulate and teach morse-code-heavy interactions (shout-out to Morserino, Morse Runner, and Morse Code Ninja).
- kawfey 4y ago
  That, or Long Island CW Club [0] - highly recommend either one. Or Learn CW Online/LCWO [1] for self-led drills and practice in addition to those apps. And definitely avoid charts, graphs, mnemonics, memory hacks, visual aids -- at all costs -- if you want proficiency. [0] https://longislandcwclub.org/ https://longislandcwclub.org/ [1] https://lcwo.net/ https://lcwo.net/

IIAOPSW 4y ago

Last year I was running a semaphore lamp off my fire escape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPE8xHSIaKk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPE8xHSIaKk

myself248 4y ago

Morse code is alive and well, especially during contests where efficiency means performance. There are a few reasons: It has high spectral efficiency; a CW transmission is only a few Hertz wide on the spectrum, whereas even SSB voice needs several kHz. This lets you use very narrow receive filters, to cut out adjacent noise and make contacts in difficult conditions. It can achieve useful communication at very low power, with very simple equipment. Look up "qrp cw kit" and you can get $15 transmitters that you solder together from parts in a few minutes, and these aren't VLSI parts like some wifi chip or whatever, these are single discrete components. Hams love hand-built equipment, or at least the theoretical ability to use hand-built equipment, and QRP (low-power operation) is a hugely popular challenge. It occupies a sweet spot where it's simple enough to encode by hand and decode by ear, but also easy enough for computers to operate. So there's a wide range of automation available, from whole-band decoders to keyboard-interactive QSOs, or you can go completely bare-handed if you prefer. That makes it appeal to more people than a more modern computer-required mode like PSK31 or FT8. (Those have even higher spectral efficiency, though, so they're popular in their own way.) Out of curiosity, what does the CQ in your username refer to?

jabroni_salad 4y ago

A nice thing with CW is that you can get it through some really impressive noise floors. I personally never use it outside of contesting though and that barely counts since it tends to be macros. Also, all amateur stations are required to identify regularly. Relays will ident quietly in morse so it doesn't interrupt the voice comms happening on that channel.

nitsuaeekcm 4y ago

About ten years ago I set custom vibrations for my top contacts on my phone to be the Morse code representation of their initials. Ever since, I’ve had the super power of knowing who is texting or calling me without pulling out my phone. I’d say that alone has made a quick memorization of the alphabet worth it.

youainti 4y ago
How did you do that? Do you have an app you recommend?
- dragontamer 4y ago
  https://stendec.io/morse/koch.html https://stendec.io/morse/koch.html Koch method is to do "full speed" Morse code from the beginning, but only learn 1 or 2 letters at a time. This Javascript page starts with the letters "k" and "m" for Lesson 1. Then, in Lesson 2, you learn "k, m, and r". Etc. etc. The way the app works is click on the "k" to hear how "k" sounds. Then click on "m" for its sound. Finally, hit the "Start Lesson" button, and the computer will make a random mix of k and m (and extended pauses, which means "space"). You type in "k m k mm mmkkm" or similar into the textarea, and the computer then sees how accurate you were.
  - Zecc 4y ago
    Less than six months ago I found this same site and I was practicing religiously multiple times a day. Several weeks ago I interrupted my practice for one reason or another and last time I tried my score had dropped to below 40%. I need to start practicing again. I haven't learned the full alphabet yet. I'm still missing letters q, g, h, z, x,c, v and all the digits. Something I've found interesting is how much difference it made changing the tone frequency. My brain definitely got used to a certain tone initially, and when I first tried changing the tone my recognition ability dropped quite a bit. So now I change it occasionally to keep my brain on its proverbial toes. I wish there was a way to practice just the letters I have more difficulty with; namely, the ones which were added later.
4y ago

WalterBright 4y ago

Practical applications include: 1. communicating with other prisoners 2. communicating with the team trying to rescue you in your sunk submarine 3. any place where you're trapped but can bang on something 4. keeping your comms secret because nobody will even know you're using morse 5. secretly communicating with others during class (I knew two sisters in high school who would jibber jabber all through class by signing letters with their hands under the desks). 6. blinking in Morse when the terrorists put you under the TV cameras for your confession 7. your radio setup can only do on/off 8. you cannot remember how smoke signals worked 9. you need to flash a lamp at the airplane who might rescue you And so on.

RedNifre 4y ago

It works great for zero dimensional displays that are far away in brought daylight. For example, the Chaos Computer Club used to hack some rental bikes which had an LED that indicated whether the bike was available or not and the hacked bikes would flash "CCC" in morse code, so you could easily identify the hacked bikes from a distance. I'm not sure about audio morse though, I'd guess voice would be better in all cases there.

SiVal 4y ago
It's not. Combine a loud emergency whistle with Morse Code, and you have the ability to signal without any electric power over much longer distances than voice.
- julian_t 4y ago
  For years the only Morse I knew was how to use a whistle to send SOS. Maybe it's time to learn a few more letters...