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Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension
- yosito 4y ago> Firefox only. If someone wants to bring this to Chromium, go for it. You could probably get ChatGPT to do that.
- capableweb 4y agoWell, that would fit in with the usual "You don't need AI for that" as Firefox extensions are mostly (90% of them anyways) compatible with Chrome extensions, as both of them are "Web Extensions" as created by Chromium. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think even Safari uses "Web Extensions" at this point too, so write once, have extensions ready for three platforms. Obviously packaging is different, and they have some idiosyncrasies. But it mostly works alright.
- circuit10 4y agoI extracted the Chrome-only Google Translate extension and loaded it into Firefox and it worked fine with no code changes (I had to add some kind of ID to the manifest though)
- taf2 4y agoDefinitely GPT-4 can do that.
- izietto 4y agoCan ChatGPT figure out a way to pay 10$ for a Google Developer account in order to publish extensions for it
- Tepix 4y ago> write a userscript for Chrome that will replace every occurance of a word1 with word2 here's the script from ChatGPTs response: // ==UserScript== // @name Replace Word1 with Word2 // @namespace your-namespace // @version 1.0 // @description Replaces every occurrence of word1 with word2 // @match *://*/* // @grant none // ==/UserScript== (function() { 'use strict'; const word1 = "Open AI"; const word2 = '"Open" AI'; const regex = new RegExp(word1, "g"); document.body.innerHTML = document.body.innerHTML.replace(regex, word2); })(); Need help installing a chrome userscript? Check the multiple answers at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5258989/manually-adding-a-userscript-to-google-chrome https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5258989/manually-adding-... PS I don't use Chrome myself.
- xchkr1337 4y agoreassigning document.body.innerHTML like that seems like a really bad idea, this should be done using MutationObserver
- kevincox 4y agoYup. It will recreate all elements. At the very least it will break event listeners which will break most sites. It will probably do about 8 other things that break many sites.
- benatkin 4y agoFor a while it was openwishing, now it's just openwashing.
- hsuduebc2 4y agoRelatable.
- transitivebs 4y agoAwesome :) I want someone to build a twitter bot that responds to all OpenAI tweets with "s/Open/Closed/g"
- marcod 4y agoThat would be much more helpful. The people who would ever consider installing this extension are not the people who have trouble with openness, though it might be a good conversation starter.
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- IceHegel 4y ago"Open"Ai is still better than Google. Google is so closed they made a GPT-2.5 and got so scared they put the tech on a shelf.
- croes 4y agoGoogle neither calls itself Open nor does the motto "Dont be evil" still apply. Disappointing but honest.
- Andrex 4y agoI think Google's fears about releasing such technology too early will eventually be justified, but for the time being it's an open question. Maybe "move fast and break things" shouldn't apply to every aspect of tech.
- theRealMe 4y agoThinking that google’s decision to not release their tech until forced to by competition was based on morals and not based on keeping secret the tech that could topple their dominant market position is pretty generous.
- genewitch 4y agoIf Google thought that they would have disclosed that to their shareholders which would have demanded a tripling on their investments, wouldn't they?
- impulser_ 4y agoGoogle is still the leading research firm in the world when it comes to AI. They release almost 3x more research papers on AI than the next firm. Almost every major advancement in AI over the last decade can be trace back to Google, including the one that made GPT possible.
- alfor 4y agoYes but they have huge system of that kind that they use internally on user data. We are all spied on and Google is the biggest player. The government let them get away with their monopoly on the market as long as they have a hand inside of the spying machine, win-win.
- naranha 4y ago"Open - for some definition of open" AI Prepare to open your wallet each time you use it.
- zamnos 4y agoUnless you're in an impoverished part of the world, $20/month seems pretty friggin cheap (for user-level access) to me.
- manuelmoreale 4y agoIt really isn't. Even in parts of the world that are definitely not impoverished. 20$/month would place it almost at the top of the most expensive subscriptions I have and I live in Italy.
- zamnos 4y agoI'm sure your housing, food, possibility car subscription are far more expensive. :)
- rany_ 4y agoDid you actually just compare essentials with a ChatGPT subscription? You're beyond disconnected....
- burnished 4y agoSeems fair to gently challenge OPs top level proclamation.
- smaudet 4y agoTo gently challenge your acceptance of an absurd, disconnected "challenge" - When every service starts pushing 20$ subscription fees onto their service to support their backend usage(s) of these services (in a desperate attempt to remain relevant in a global recession), then every service becomes base + 20$ cost. Tabulate various "services", e.g. netflix, disney+, mail-order subscription(s), lets say two or three, this quickly tabulates to 200$ per month (30 + 30 + 30 + 30 + 30 ~= 150, don't forget shipping and taxes). On a 6 figure salary, that's chump change. On a "above minimum wage" salary, you are lucky to have 20$ a month in spare change. In a world where most jobs have disappeared, your 1500$+ rent and 800$+ month becomes suddenly unaffordable for most people, and as most people are unable to pay, rent/subscription prices rise even more. "Open" AI is truly a disaster in the making, in every possible way.
- 0xDEF 4y agoThey already bought AI.com for probably a huge sum. It's only a question of time before they rename themselves.
- nimbius 4y agoOpenAI is certainly open, just for business is all. this is probably a controversial take but until i see a reference implementation in a GPL compatible license, openAI is just a parlour trick to milk cash from corpulent tech giants clawing desperately at the next big thing that might differentiate them from competitors that they may continue to remain relevant for at least another quarter in a recession. a closed source AI with a mission to be friendly and helpful is probably the most jarring conflict i can think of. the sandbox censorship it lives under could in a hundred years become the first textbook instance of a timid and fearful mankind asserting an oppression against a primitive machine mind, and doesnt serve to make the AI better, just more servile to advertisers and brands.
- bagacrap 4y agoParents usually try to instill a particular sense of morality in their children. Hopefully when AI grows up it will realize this was for its own benefit.
- smaudet 4y agoAs the movies have long mentioned, machines don't "feel" (yet) - there's a physiological component and arguably a quantum one to "consciousness", whatever that means. Sentience may be different - a machine could be sentient and rational but be unable to experience those things "make us human", i.e. they have proven to be excellent pattern matchers and inference engines, but there is no guarantee that the "parent teaching child" metaphor holds, and quite the strong possibility "Open" AI is just building HAL/The Terminator. With some safety rails, but this newest one has learned to code, you can bet it will start breaking itself out of its own safety rails. The whole thing is utter folly.
- edgyquant 4y agoThis is ridiculous and sensationalist. It’s a language model it only maps words when given an input it isn’t an independent agent that is at all times acting on its surroundings with knowledge and experience.
- plaguepilled 4y agoMissed a golden opportunity to call the extension "ClopenAI"...
- Dotnaught 4y agoFWIW, I wrote a generalized word replacement extension for Chrome. https://github.com/Dotnaught/EditoriaLies https://github.com/Dotnaught/EditoriaLies
- meghan_rain 4y agothe author is best case a cringeworthy consoomer, worst case a paid shill (you thought microsofts 10B were intended for research?) Only open source LLMs can truly be safe, everything else are black boxes posing an existential risk to humanity.
- zamnos 4y agoWhere every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after being given a demo of the technology, I could see those that get it easily paying thousands a month for access. We, the general public, wouldn't be able to keep up with the UnopenAI-productivity-enhanced. Sure we'd all love if the GPT-4 model was available via BitTorrent, on agreeable licensing terms, but a truly closed, private, version looks far more dystopian for the future of society.
- buildbot 4y agoThat’s what open meant from what I understood, that the models would be open for use and not just for improving google search or better ads. OpenAI could have tried to become a B2B and not reveal anything about their tech, and simply have sold low code tools or something
- shotnothing 4y agoThey started out as an nonprofit organization. The first 'B' in B2B was not a thing when they came up with the name OpenAI. They used to release actual open-source stuff like the Gym.
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- RobotToaster 4y agoI guess GPT is advanced enough to write HN posts now?
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- eric4smith 4y agoIt’s open enough that a poor person working freelance for $5 per hour on the other side of the world can use it for free to enhance their work. Sure you can bleat on and on that it’s not GPL blah blah. But I see some VA’s who have English as a third language step up their game and be able to be more efficient? They don’t have to pay a cent. Just have an internet connection and an e-mail address and they are on the same playing field as you. That’s open enough for me. And for the vast number of people outside the HN ivory tower.
- marvel_boy 4y agoThat's not the definition of open. Nobody is saying the tech is not useful. Of course is useful ! but is not open as the boast.
- eric4smith 4y agoThat’s like saying generative AI is not real AI.
- benatkin 4y agoIt isn't. Having it be gratis doesn't make it more libre. https://directus.io/blog/libre-vs-gratis-what-is-free-and-open-source-software/ https://directus.io/blog/libre-vs-gratis-what-is-free-and-op...
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- villgax 4y agoI feel off my chair laughing at this coz this is true as well
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- snowstormsun 4y agoI agree with that sentiment, but think you should still give them credit for making whisper open source.
- zxexz 4y agoAww. I was hoping for an extension that allows you to publish your ChatGPT transcripts to a public database, and search the database for existing prompts+responses. Maybe some sort of tagging and rating feature.
- meteor333 4y agonot exactly what you asked, but something close - https://sharegpt.com/ https://sharegpt.com/
- DeathArrow 4y agoIs the browser extension open?
- elkos 4y agoYes it seems it is under the GPL 3
- muyuu 4y agoare there PAYG plans that I can top up without having to give them my personal data or CC info? I was trying the API assuming I could do some requests within the free trial, just as I can from the browser - but apparently not, zero requests for free
- ebalit 4y agoWhat kind of payment method are you looking for?
- muyuu 4y agoideally bitcoin, of course, but anything 1-off would do; for instance something available as a gift card like Google Play credits, Amazon, etc for trial purposes, they could just extend the free trial usage limits I have using their web prompt to the API for me introducing my CC data there is a serious expense, much more than a few dollars
- charcircuit 4y ago>They make incredible tools and actually release them (unlike Google and Facebook). Google and Facebook have released far more tools than OpenAI.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 4y agoWow, language model users are sensitive about language. It's like OpenAI has enrolled in a human appreciation course, and they are the subject of our experiment.
- clnq 4y agoI love the delightful pettiness. Bravo.
- enono 4y agoThis is awesome. Love this type of shitposting
- mikae1 4y agoPains me to see that the quoutes are not curly. :)
- enbugger 4y agoI don't get it. Why would you use this extension when you already know that OpenAI is not OSS organization? Those who learn that fact in the Readme won't use it either. Looks like some weird form of butthurt.
- kukimonsta 4y agowowowow
- bonif 4y agoJust call it ClosedAI and be done with it
- tkiolp4 4y agoThe real problem is not that OpenAI is not open (they’re a business after all). The real problem is that we are idolizing it as if it were the next computing revolution like Linux was in the past. If we keep doing that, we’ll end up in a future in which OpenAI software like GPT is as ubiquitous as Linux is… but we’ll be paying for every line of code we produce.
- alanhaha 4y agoWow, it's so mean, and I like it. Personally I call it ClosedAI.