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The even funnier thing is, Gmail supports standard mail protocols, and can be interacted with using just about any mail client, and Twitter has a billion custom
by mid-kid 4y ago
The even funnier thing is, Gmail supports standard mail protocols, and can be interacted with using just about any mail client, and Twitter has a billion custom clients for it as well. The problem is that Google is hiding the SMTP/IMAP options deep behind needing a 2fa and "app passwords", and all the others are actively rejecting or working against letting people create custom apps for the services easily.
There's no need for any of these companies to create any new software for any new OS, they choose to prevent people from doing so, and that's actively harmful in the current walled garden of an ecosystem we've created.
- WirelessGigabit 4y agoNo one wants to do POP3 in 2023. And Gmails IMAP set up is weird. A labeling system being represented as folders is not a great experience.
- ghusto 4y agoI've been using IMAP for Gmail since forever, and it's ... fine? I don't know what you find weird about it?
- WirelessGigabit 4y agoIf you put 2 labels on an email, then it is represented twice over IMAP. IMAP is folder based, not label based. And what this means is that if you remove an email from a folder, you don't actually remove it completely, you just remove the label, and the email continues to exist elsewhere. (I might be wrong about this behavior: the behavior of deleting an email over IMAP depends on whether it has labels left or not). Update: good read about how the system doesn't behave like you think it does https://www.tomscott.com/fix-gmail-labels-threads/ https://www.tomscott.com/fix-gmail-labels-threads/
- ghusto 4y agoYeah I was aware they're doing some black-box stuff to make it work, but wasn't too fussed as long as it did. I have the issue you describe with ProtonMail's labelling, but not Gmail's.
- nephanth 4y ago> Twitter has a billion custom clients for it as well Not anymore