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But it's not an "European mobile operating system", it's a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. How can Android OS challenge Android OS?

QuarterReptile 4y ago
To me, the real question is how this differs from Graphene OS, which has the advantage of already working- so much, so, it seems, that they get security patches faster than almost any other Android phones. And then it's a game of re-Googling your de-Googled phone for most people, it seems. Privacy-respecting phones already exist in the US market (I think it's pretty much illegal in Europe to get cell service without government ID, but that's not firsthand). If you think you care, buy https://inteltechniques.com/book7a.html https://inteltechniques.com/book7a.html, get a Pixel phone, and try for yourself. Ironically, they're handicapped by Google's SoCs being quite bad (though seemingly not much worse than most recent Qualcomm flagship products, this most recent generation excepted). Edit: this site suggests that there are quite a few countries in Europe where you don't have to register: https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Registration_Policies_Per_Country https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Registration_P...
- palata 4y ago
  > To me, the real question is how this differs from Graphene OS, which has the advantage of already working /e/ OS already works, I've been using it for 2 years flawlessly. What's the difference with GrapheneOS? They target a slightly different audience. GrapheneOS is really into security, and for that they only target Pixel phones. CalyxOS is based on Graphene and tries to make it more user-friendly (at the cost of being less secure: different users, different threat models). /e/ OS is based on Lineage (I believe), and also tries to make it more user-friendly. They all have a focus on privacy (as in, not being tracked by Google & Co), but they do it differently. I would argue that they are all on the same side.
- em-bee 4y ago
  as far as i understand the key difference is that /e/OS removes any connections made to google, whereas grapheneOS considers that in itself problematic because that changes the fingerprint of the phone, therefore grapheneOS has toggles to allow making a GrapheneOS device appear to be an AOSP device (from: https://grapheneos.org/features https://grapheneos.org/features ) so it seems that /e/OS implements less security features than grapheneOS. i haven't used grapheneOS so i don't know if there are any other differences. /e/OS certainly is more userfriendly (compared to the lineageOS it is based on)

QuarterReptile 4y ago

To me, the real question is how this differs from Graphene OS, which has the advantage of already working- so much, so, it seems, that they get security patches faster than almost any other Android phones. And then it's a game of re-Googling your de-Googled phone for most people, it seems. Privacy-respecting phones already exist in the US market (I think it's pretty much illegal in Europe to get cell service without government ID, but that's not firsthand). If you think you care, buy https://inteltechniques.com/book7a.html https://inteltechniques.com/book7a.html, get a Pixel phone, and try for yourself. Ironically, they're handicapped by Google's SoCs being quite bad (though seemingly not much worse than most recent Qualcomm flagship products, this most recent generation excepted). Edit: this site suggests that there are quite a few countries in Europe where you don't have to register: https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Registration_Policies_Per_Country https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Registration_P...

palata 4y ago
> To me, the real question is how this differs from Graphene OS, which has the advantage of already working /e/ OS already works, I've been using it for 2 years flawlessly. What's the difference with GrapheneOS? They target a slightly different audience. GrapheneOS is really into security, and for that they only target Pixel phones. CalyxOS is based on Graphene and tries to make it more user-friendly (at the cost of being less secure: different users, different threat models). /e/ OS is based on Lineage (I believe), and also tries to make it more user-friendly. They all have a focus on privacy (as in, not being tracked by Google & Co), but they do it differently. I would argue that they are all on the same side.
em-bee 4y ago
as far as i understand the key difference is that /e/OS removes any connections made to google, whereas grapheneOS considers that in itself problematic because that changes the fingerprint of the phone, therefore grapheneOS has toggles to allow making a GrapheneOS device appear to be an AOSP device (from: https://grapheneos.org/features https://grapheneos.org/features ) so it seems that /e/OS implements less security features than grapheneOS. i haven't used grapheneOS so i don't know if there are any other differences. /e/OS certainly is more userfriendly (compared to the lineageOS it is based on)