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I bought a Windows gaming laptop in December, first time Windows gaming since 2010. Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use and have spent

I bought a Windows gaming laptop in December, first time Windows gaming since 2010. Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use and have spent 10-15 hours troubleshooting it. I've railed in the past about how Windows users think it's acceptable to constantly reboot your machine, experience crashes, etc. Perhaps I am too pampered/spoiled, but I'm pretty sure 99% of Windows users are just experiencing Stockholm Syndrome.

RHSeeger 4y ago
> Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use and have spent 10-15 hours troubleshooting it. > 've railed in the past about how Windows users think it's acceptable to constantly reboot your machine, experience crashes, etc. Probably because most of us don't have such issues. I have both a Windows box and an OS X box, and they both need about the same amount of rebooting (maybe once a week? I don't actively keep track). My current Windows box (about 4 months old) has never crashed. My previous Windows box rarely crashed (but it was >10 years old, so it _did_ have some crashes).
ed_elliott_asc 4y ago
If you don’t work in tech and you aren’t actually interested in tech which is quite a large proportion of home users then switching away is too much work.
kgwxd 4y ago
I haven’t seen a bsod in over 15 years on any of the 4 personal or handful of work machines I’ve used in that time. Last one I can even remember seeing was in Vista and it was from legit hardware failure. Can’t remember the last time I was forced to reboot either. It’s been suggested plenty, but ignored without issue.
- sumtechguy 4y ago
  That is one nice thing about blue screens now. If you get them now it defiantly gets your attention. There is either a driver issue or a bad hw component (overheating, poor/broken connection) on the gp's new machine. I have not see one on my own machines in probably 4 years (bad driver). My wife gets one about every 2-3 months. They are identical hardware. I dropped her laptop on the floor one day by accident. It has not been quite right since (especially if she leaves an 360 controller plugged in). Forced reboots can happen. Usually about once a month you get a shot at it when they do their monthly update cycle. So if you happen to stay up past 3AM on the second Tuesday of the month you might get one.
- xxs 4y ago
  You are not into any form of overclocking I gather.
EMM_386 4y ago
I literally can't remember seeing a BSOD in Windows in as long as I can remember, at least 5 years or more. I haven't rebooted this particular machine since the time it said it was required for an update, which was weeks ago. I use it as my primary dev machine for my day job and it's a gaming machine that I use for gaming daily. Something else is wrong. It's installed on billions of devices, noone would accept constant BSODs, crashes and forced reboots if this was the normal experience.
nextaccountic 4y ago
did you do a memory test? grab a linux usb stick and select memtest86+ on boot and let it run overnight or for how long as you can
swozey 4y ago
Do you seriously think those of us running Windows deal with reboots and BSODs constantly and that you didn't happen to buy bad ram or some other hardware problem?
ziml77 4y ago
It's very likely that there's a hardware issue. While it could be a driver bug, that's the kind of thing you would be able to easily find others with similar systems complaining about.
anotherman554 4y ago
As others have said, this is not normal. Your laptop appears to be broken or misconfigured and you should probably make a warranty claim. If you bought a used laptop someone ripped you off with a lemon device.
xxs 4y ago
Having had several gaming laptops and basically every single laptop in the past 15years had a dedicated GPU, gaming laptops are a gimmick, if you emphasize on gaming. They do make pretty decent machines for work, due to spec., large battery, and generous cooling. While many find them too heavy or bulking, but I do not mind that bit at all. However, the amount of heat needed to be dissipated, and GPUs having very low power envelop, makes them quite pitiful for the price paid.
tracker1 4y ago
Pretty good chance it's either a bad driver for some hardware you are running, or a physical device fault. If the fault is different devices each time, likely ram. I can't stand Windows at this point, but the experiences you are seeing definitely aren't normal. What do the temperatures look like? It's possibly just a bad thermal design or fan curve for your model.
Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
> Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use a You don't honestly think that's what everyone else experiences, do you? I'm a gamer running Win10. In the past 5 years, I've had 4 BSoDs, 3 of them caused by Riot's Vanguard anti-cheat (Which I've uninstalled since I don't play Valorant anymore). It sounds to me that you got a faulty laptop, and rather than consider that possibility, you decided that Windows is to blame.

RHSeeger 4y ago

> Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use and have spent 10-15 hours troubleshooting it. > 've railed in the past about how Windows users think it's acceptable to constantly reboot your machine, experience crashes, etc. Probably because most of us don't have such issues. I have both a Windows box and an OS X box, and they both need about the same amount of rebooting (maybe once a week? I don't actively keep track). My current Windows box (about 4 months old) has never crashed. My previous Windows box rarely crashed (but it was >10 years old, so it _did_ have some crashes).

ed_elliott_asc 4y ago

If you don’t work in tech and you aren’t actually interested in tech which is quite a large proportion of home users then switching away is too much work.

kgwxd 4y ago

I haven’t seen a bsod in over 15 years on any of the 4 personal or handful of work machines I’ve used in that time. Last one I can even remember seeing was in Vista and it was from legit hardware failure. Can’t remember the last time I was forced to reboot either. It’s been suggested plenty, but ignored without issue.

sumtechguy 4y ago
That is one nice thing about blue screens now. If you get them now it defiantly gets your attention. There is either a driver issue or a bad hw component (overheating, poor/broken connection) on the gp's new machine. I have not see one on my own machines in probably 4 years (bad driver). My wife gets one about every 2-3 months. They are identical hardware. I dropped her laptop on the floor one day by accident. It has not been quite right since (especially if she leaves an 360 controller plugged in). Forced reboots can happen. Usually about once a month you get a shot at it when they do their monthly update cycle. So if you happen to stay up past 3AM on the second Tuesday of the month you might get one.
xxs 4y ago
You are not into any form of overclocking I gather.

EMM_386 4y ago

I literally can't remember seeing a BSOD in Windows in as long as I can remember, at least 5 years or more. I haven't rebooted this particular machine since the time it said it was required for an update, which was weeks ago. I use it as my primary dev machine for my day job and it's a gaming machine that I use for gaming daily. Something else is wrong. It's installed on billions of devices, noone would accept constant BSODs, crashes and forced reboots if this was the normal experience.

nextaccountic 4y ago

did you do a memory test? grab a linux usb stick and select memtest86+ on boot and let it run overnight or for how long as you can

swozey 4y ago

Do you seriously think those of us running Windows deal with reboots and BSODs constantly and that you didn't happen to buy bad ram or some other hardware problem?

ziml77 4y ago

It's very likely that there's a hardware issue. While it could be a driver bug, that's the kind of thing you would be able to easily find others with similar systems complaining about.

anotherman554 4y ago

As others have said, this is not normal. Your laptop appears to be broken or misconfigured and you should probably make a warranty claim. If you bought a used laptop someone ripped you off with a lemon device.

xxs 4y ago

Having had several gaming laptops and basically every single laptop in the past 15years had a dedicated GPU, gaming laptops are a gimmick, if you emphasize on gaming. They do make pretty decent machines for work, due to spec., large battery, and generous cooling. While many find them too heavy or bulking, but I do not mind that bit at all. However, the amount of heat needed to be dissipated, and GPUs having very low power envelop, makes them quite pitiful for the price paid.

tracker1 4y ago

Pretty good chance it's either a bad driver for some hardware you are running, or a physical device fault. If the fault is different devices each time, likely ram. I can't stand Windows at this point, but the experiences you are seeing definitely aren't normal. What do the temperatures look like? It's possibly just a bad thermal design or fan curve for your model.

Sohcahtoa82 4y ago

> Currently I consistently get BSOD after 5-10 minutes of use a You don't honestly think that's what everyone else experiences, do you? I'm a gamer running Win10. In the past 5 years, I've had 4 BSoDs, 3 of them caused by Riot's Vanguard anti-cheat (Which I've uninstalled since I don't play Valorant anymore). It sounds to me that you got a faulty laptop, and rather than consider that possibility, you decided that Windows is to blame.