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IIT colleges in themselves are not even in top 100 Universities of the world. If you train a lion in a circus, it won't be the king of the jungle. So if we wer

IIT colleges in themselves are not even in top 100 Universities of the world. If you train a lion in a circus, it won't be the king of the jungle. So if we were to believe your statement: > I doubt most Europeans or US students could pass it, even after a year or two at university. than this allegedly miraclous students are wasting there talents studying in IITs!

gcr 4y ago
USA and European university rankings have a strong bias against universities in the Global South (especially India), in part because of the stigma against Indian programmers and in part because they're generally wanting to promote US and European universities as the global leaders. If you're going to disparage a university based on nothing but ranking lists run by USA and Europeans, you're missing out. IIT students are amazing, i've worked with them. Far more creative and competent programmers than the average Ivy League grad in my cohort.
- tekknik 4y ago
  So the racism card again? Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Would citizens of the EU and US not want to go to one of the best schools regardless of locale?
  - thebradbain 4y ago
    > Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Not that it’s the same, but have you looked at either of these countries’ pasts? Even relatively recently— the Marshall Islands, or still ongoing, in Mauritius/Diego Garcia.
- quonn 4y ago
  This is not exactly true either. Some IIT students are terrible programmers, others not. But they do have certain strengths and their math training is very strong.
quonn 4y ago
There was recently a German math professor who famously compared the JEE to some German standards. It‘s worth looking into. I say this, having studied at a European university as well as visited IIT and a top US university. These are different traditions with different strength and weaknesses but my point was not to say that IIT is better, it was to put the OP comment into a context.
N1H1L 4y ago
As someone who attended both an IIT (as an undergrad) and a top 10 US university (for my PhD) - think of IITs as very selective undergrad colleges in the USA, such as Swarthmore or Amherst. IITs are way more teaching focused than research focused, and are have a very light international student presence - two factors that enormously influence rankings.

gcr 4y ago

USA and European university rankings have a strong bias against universities in the Global South (especially India), in part because of the stigma against Indian programmers and in part because they're generally wanting to promote US and European universities as the global leaders. If you're going to disparage a university based on nothing but ranking lists run by USA and Europeans, you're missing out. IIT students are amazing, i've worked with them. Far more creative and competent programmers than the average Ivy League grad in my cohort.

tekknik 4y ago
So the racism card again? Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Would citizens of the EU and US not want to go to one of the best schools regardless of locale?
- thebradbain 4y ago
  > Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Not that it’s the same, but have you looked at either of these countries’ pasts? Even relatively recently— the Marshall Islands, or still ongoing, in Mauritius/Diego Garcia.
quonn 4y ago
This is not exactly true either. Some IIT students are terrible programmers, others not. But they do have certain strengths and their math training is very strong.

quonn 4y ago

There was recently a German math professor who famously compared the JEE to some German standards. It‘s worth looking into. I say this, having studied at a European university as well as visited IIT and a top US university. These are different traditions with different strength and weaknesses but my point was not to say that IIT is better, it was to put the OP comment into a context.

N1H1L 4y ago

As someone who attended both an IIT (as an undergrad) and a top 10 US university (for my PhD) - think of IITs as very selective undergrad colleges in the USA, such as Swarthmore or Amherst. IITs are way more teaching focused than research focused, and are have a very light international student presence - two factors that enormously influence rankings.