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I had been using Linux and macOS for many years mostly because as a developer, you were not supposed to use Windows. In late 2019, when I got my new work compu

I had been using Linux and macOS for many years mostly because as a developer, you were not supposed to use Windows. In late 2019, when I got my new work computer, I decided to try it out. The Windows 10 experience was surprising. Imagine never having problems with wireless bluetooth, WiFi, graphics card etc. Imagine everything always working and never having to worry about updates breaking anything. That is what I got with Windows coming from Linux. Thankfully, I had given up on macOS a long time ago after a few years of use, because it is deliberately developer-hostile. Added bonus is the fact that I don't have to take the label of an Apple user... and it is not based on what non-Apple users think of Apple users. I couldn't care about it less had the devices worked for me. It is entirely based on how other Apple users talk to you when they think you are an Apple user. It always made me wonder how otherwise intelligent people can be like that about a brand. They act like they are "different" in a way that they should feel better about themselves because they bought this product. It somehow feels disgusting to be associated with them.

kjuulh 4y ago
I agree. Window especially was nice compared to the previous version (7 was great too). Wsl2 is a blessing. The drivers often just work. The sad thing is for desktop usage you often have to choose the drivers preferred way of updating. I.e. downloading graphics card updates, as opposed to through the package manager. I haven't investigated whether it is possible via. chocolatey yet. Linux desktop still feels quite grassroots. Especially as it is community effort to bring a lot of drivers to it. It is still quite sad that the Nvidia support is as poor as it is. I have only experienced the elitism or whatever you want to call it from non-tech friends and family. Apple's marketing definitely worked. Also the entire Intel saga was quite bad for their brand in regards to developers. At work some of us have been upgraded to m1, and others are still on intel the last few generations before m1 was published. It really is apparent how different those machines are. Intel macs are loud, overheat and unstable as all hell, while m1s are super solid for the most part. I wish I could buy a Linux laptop with the same specs and quality, I would pay a pretty penny for it, I have to give asahi a shot one of these days, if the company allows =D
superhuzza 4y ago
>Imagine never having problems with wireless bluetooth, WiFi, graphics card etc. Imagine everything always working and never having to worry about updates breaking anything. That's exactly how I felt when I started using MacOS after many years on Windows laptops!
ben7799 4y ago
Not sure how old you are but this is really just an indictment of Linux. Both Mac OS and Windows have had this stuff sorted out for decades. Windows was not as good at it 20 years ago but it was still very good at it. Mac has been phenomenal at it even longer, largely because of the limited number of hardware configurations. It has always been a chore in Linux. Always. It's a hard problem to solve with the extreme diversity of PC hardware, and Microsoft really started doing a good job with it around Win 95 and later. Prior to that Dos & Windows 3.x you did have to jump through a lot of the same hoops linux is famous for. Linux has gotten better but is still relatively terrible about this. Users are not supposed to have to search compatibility lists and tweak config files to the degree they still are.

kjuulh 4y ago

I agree. Window especially was nice compared to the previous version (7 was great too). Wsl2 is a blessing. The drivers often just work. The sad thing is for desktop usage you often have to choose the drivers preferred way of updating. I.e. downloading graphics card updates, as opposed to through the package manager. I haven't investigated whether it is possible via. chocolatey yet. Linux desktop still feels quite grassroots. Especially as it is community effort to bring a lot of drivers to it. It is still quite sad that the Nvidia support is as poor as it is. I have only experienced the elitism or whatever you want to call it from non-tech friends and family. Apple's marketing definitely worked. Also the entire Intel saga was quite bad for their brand in regards to developers. At work some of us have been upgraded to m1, and others are still on intel the last few generations before m1 was published. It really is apparent how different those machines are. Intel macs are loud, overheat and unstable as all hell, while m1s are super solid for the most part. I wish I could buy a Linux laptop with the same specs and quality, I would pay a pretty penny for it, I have to give asahi a shot one of these days, if the company allows =D

superhuzza 4y ago

>Imagine never having problems with wireless bluetooth, WiFi, graphics card etc. Imagine everything always working and never having to worry about updates breaking anything. That's exactly how I felt when I started using MacOS after many years on Windows laptops!

ben7799 4y ago

Not sure how old you are but this is really just an indictment of Linux. Both Mac OS and Windows have had this stuff sorted out for decades. Windows was not as good at it 20 years ago but it was still very good at it. Mac has been phenomenal at it even longer, largely because of the limited number of hardware configurations. It has always been a chore in Linux. Always. It's a hard problem to solve with the extreme diversity of PC hardware, and Microsoft really started doing a good job with it around Win 95 and later. Prior to that Dos & Windows 3.x you did have to jump through a lot of the same hoops linux is famous for. Linux has gotten better but is still relatively terrible about this. Users are not supposed to have to search compatibility lists and tweak config files to the degree they still are.