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From authors website: "I graduated high school in May of 2022..". Elsewhere, he writes he placed first at a university level drone programming challenge at IIT-

From authors website: "I graduated high school in May of 2022..". Elsewhere, he writes he placed first at a university level drone programming challenge at IIT-Bombay Techfest. Very impressive.

quonn 4y ago
The JEE exam in India is very advanced, I doubt most Europeans or US students could pass it, even after a year or two at university. So those who enter IIT are already quite good very early.
- jsdeveloper 4y ago
  IIT colleges in themselves are not even in top 100 Universities of the world. If you train a lion in a circus, it won't be the king of the jungle. So if we were to believe your statement: > I doubt most Europeans or US students could pass it, even after a year or two at university. than this allegedly miraclous students are wasting there talents studying in IITs!
  - gcr 4y ago
    USA and European university rankings have a strong bias against universities in the Global South (especially India), in part because of the stigma against Indian programmers and in part because they're generally wanting to promote US and European universities as the global leaders. If you're going to disparage a university based on nothing but ranking lists run by USA and Europeans, you're missing out. IIT students are amazing, i've worked with them. Far more creative and competent programmers than the average Ivy League grad in my cohort.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      So the racism card again? Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Would citizens of the EU and US not want to go to one of the best schools regardless of locale?
      - thebradbain 4y ago
        > Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Not that it’s the same, but have you looked at either of these countries’ pasts? Even relatively recently— the Marshall Islands, or still ongoing, in Mauritius/Diego Garcia.
    - quonn 4y ago
      This is not exactly true either. Some IIT students are terrible programmers, others not. But they do have certain strengths and their math training is very strong.
  - quonn 4y ago
    There was recently a German math professor who famously compared the JEE to some German standards. It‘s worth looking into. I say this, having studied at a European university as well as visited IIT and a top US university. These are different traditions with different strength and weaknesses but my point was not to say that IIT is better, it was to put the OP comment into a context.
  - N1H1L 4y ago
    As someone who attended both an IIT (as an undergrad) and a top 10 US university (for my PhD) - think of IITs as very selective undergrad colleges in the USA, such as Swarthmore or Amherst. IITs are way more teaching focused than research focused, and are have a very light international student presence - two factors that enormously influence rankings.
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  India's high-stakes exams are also plagued by cheating.[1] So just because someone ostensibly "passed" an exam doesn't mean they actually did. Of course, India's education system is far from the only one where cheating is rampant, which is just one reason to look on credentials and accolades everywhere with a skeptical eye. [1] - https://www.economist.com/asia/2022/05/26/indias-exams-are-plagued-by-cheating https://www.economist.com/asia/2022/05/26/indias-exams-are-p...
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  - N1H1L 4y ago
    Compared to paying lacrosse coaches in Stanford - as if US universities are any better! Your rich dad endows a building in an Ivy and you are in - and apparently it's all good!
- Foobar8568 4y ago
  I have taken a look at some test papers, it's basically stuff we were doing back in the 80s/90s in France at the end of high school, nothing crazy, I aould even say trivial as it looks to be direct application of the course, and if it's just a MCQ, then it's a bloody joke, even today. And I believe, it should be easily tackled by any current gymnase students following the physic /math stream in Switzerland. The actual question would be more why the level in Europe (and in a lesser extend) north America dropped this much over the last 30years.
  - toolz 4y ago
    Shouldn't the ultimate test of an education system be the practical outputs that serve society? We use testing for more immediate results, but there's nothing particularly telling at a more practical level that engineering in the EU and NA is falling behind India, as far as I can tell innovation in STEM is still taking place frequently in EU and NA.

From authors website: "I graduated high school in May of 2022..". Elsewhere, he writes he placed first at a university level drone programming challenge at IIT-Bombay Techfest. Very impressive.

quonn 4y ago

The JEE exam in India is very advanced, I doubt most Europeans or US students could pass it, even after a year or two at university. So those who enter IIT are already quite good very early.

jsdeveloper 4y ago
IIT colleges in themselves are not even in top 100 Universities of the world. If you train a lion in a circus, it won't be the king of the jungle. So if we were to believe your statement: > I doubt most Europeans or US students could pass it, even after a year or two at university. than this allegedly miraclous students are wasting there talents studying in IITs!
- gcr 4y ago
  USA and European university rankings have a strong bias against universities in the Global South (especially India), in part because of the stigma against Indian programmers and in part because they're generally wanting to promote US and European universities as the global leaders. If you're going to disparage a university based on nothing but ranking lists run by USA and Europeans, you're missing out. IIT students are amazing, i've worked with them. Far more creative and competent programmers than the average Ivy League grad in my cohort.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    So the racism card again? Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Would citizens of the EU and US not want to go to one of the best schools regardless of locale?
    - thebradbain 4y ago
      > Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Not that it’s the same, but have you looked at either of these countries’ pasts? Even relatively recently— the Marshall Islands, or still ongoing, in Mauritius/Diego Garcia.
  - quonn 4y ago
    This is not exactly true either. Some IIT students are terrible programmers, others not. But they do have certain strengths and their math training is very strong.
- quonn 4y ago
  There was recently a German math professor who famously compared the JEE to some German standards. It‘s worth looking into. I say this, having studied at a European university as well as visited IIT and a top US university. These are different traditions with different strength and weaknesses but my point was not to say that IIT is better, it was to put the OP comment into a context.
- N1H1L 4y ago
  As someone who attended both an IIT (as an undergrad) and a top 10 US university (for my PhD) - think of IITs as very selective undergrad colleges in the USA, such as Swarthmore or Amherst. IITs are way more teaching focused than research focused, and are have a very light international student presence - two factors that enormously influence rankings.
pmoriarty 4y ago
India's high-stakes exams are also plagued by cheating.[1] So just because someone ostensibly "passed" an exam doesn't mean they actually did. Of course, India's education system is far from the only one where cheating is rampant, which is just one reason to look on credentials and accolades everywhere with a skeptical eye. [1] - https://www.economist.com/asia/2022/05/26/indias-exams-are-plagued-by-cheating https://www.economist.com/asia/2022/05/26/indias-exams-are-p...
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- N1H1L 4y ago
  Compared to paying lacrosse coaches in Stanford - as if US universities are any better! Your rich dad endows a building in an Ivy and you are in - and apparently it's all good!
Foobar8568 4y ago
I have taken a look at some test papers, it's basically stuff we were doing back in the 80s/90s in France at the end of high school, nothing crazy, I aould even say trivial as it looks to be direct application of the course, and if it's just a MCQ, then it's a bloody joke, even today. And I believe, it should be easily tackled by any current gymnase students following the physic /math stream in Switzerland. The actual question would be more why the level in Europe (and in a lesser extend) north America dropped this much over the last 30years.
- toolz 4y ago
  Shouldn't the ultimate test of an education system be the practical outputs that serve society? We use testing for more immediate results, but there's nothing particularly telling at a more practical level that engineering in the EU and NA is falling behind India, as far as I can tell innovation in STEM is still taking place frequently in EU and NA.