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What kind of thing? That it comes with a News app that has a pre installed widget that can be removed with a single right click?

herbst 4y ago
Common anti virus, weird update windows, weird scary Dialogs you learn to blindly confirm to install things. Blinking and animations in the taskbar, ... Not even a common design pattern for the annoyances. As someone who hasn't used Windows in more than 10 years the whole desktop is full of distractions popping up unasked. IMO it's horrible for a productive environment because it doesn't allow to focus properly
- gcr 4y ago
  Every week or so, my Windows 10 desktop pops up a dialog telling me to upgrade to Windows 11. I spend about a minute looking for the one tiny link to dismiss the dialog without upgrading. I swear it changes locations each time... Lately I've also had it sprout similar dialogs about converting my local account to a Microsoft account. Those are even harder to thwart, requiring multiple clicks through "Are you sure?" dialogs and dark patterns. It's easier to bear this little weekly hide-and-seek ritual when you think about it like a small child making bids for attention. "Mommy, Mommy, I hid your glasses! Play with me before you start your workday!" Kind of endearing in its own way.
  - jdsully 4y ago
    Usually in your BIOS you can disable your TPM chip. That will make it stop asking as you'll fail the min requirements check.
    - IIsi50MHz 4y ago
      Although it did seem to randomly announce to me just a few times that mine is not compatible with Win11. Which isn't even true, since the TPM chip thing is a completely arbitrary requirement.
      - gcr 4y ago
        Doesn't Windows 10 use TPM for FileVault? I might need it enabled.
c0l0 4y ago
Yes, for instance. Because defaults actually matter.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Worst thing is how it slows things down compared to a clean linux install. Sticking with Windows though because it is a family shared PC, for now.
yourusername 4y ago
Don't you think it is a strange default that users (even people that pay for the enterprise version) are bombarded with the worst of the worst clickbait that takes up 1/3 of your screen if you mousover a certain part of the screen?
- jsmith99 4y ago
  Absolutely, I think it's bizarre. But I find that many users actually seem to like it. The apple news app seems pretty tabloidy too (although not as bad) so I'm cautious about projecting my taste onto others.
- squarefoot 4y ago
  At this point, I wouldn't be that surprised if people working at Microsoft competitors would receive more distracting junk.

herbst 4y ago

Common anti virus, weird update windows, weird scary Dialogs you learn to blindly confirm to install things. Blinking and animations in the taskbar, ... Not even a common design pattern for the annoyances. As someone who hasn't used Windows in more than 10 years the whole desktop is full of distractions popping up unasked. IMO it's horrible for a productive environment because it doesn't allow to focus properly

gcr 4y ago
Every week or so, my Windows 10 desktop pops up a dialog telling me to upgrade to Windows 11. I spend about a minute looking for the one tiny link to dismiss the dialog without upgrading. I swear it changes locations each time... Lately I've also had it sprout similar dialogs about converting my local account to a Microsoft account. Those are even harder to thwart, requiring multiple clicks through "Are you sure?" dialogs and dark patterns. It's easier to bear this little weekly hide-and-seek ritual when you think about it like a small child making bids for attention. "Mommy, Mommy, I hid your glasses! Play with me before you start your workday!" Kind of endearing in its own way.
- jdsully 4y ago
  Usually in your BIOS you can disable your TPM chip. That will make it stop asking as you'll fail the min requirements check.
  - IIsi50MHz 4y ago
    Although it did seem to randomly announce to me just a few times that mine is not compatible with Win11. Which isn't even true, since the TPM chip thing is a completely arbitrary requirement.
    - gcr 4y ago
      Doesn't Windows 10 use TPM for FileVault? I might need it enabled.

c0l0 4y ago

Yes, for instance. Because defaults actually matter.

quickthrower2 4y ago
Worst thing is how it slows things down compared to a clean linux install. Sticking with Windows though because it is a family shared PC, for now.

yourusername 4y ago

Don't you think it is a strange default that users (even people that pay for the enterprise version) are bombarded with the worst of the worst clickbait that takes up 1/3 of your screen if you mousover a certain part of the screen?

jsmith99 4y ago
Absolutely, I think it's bizarre. But I find that many users actually seem to like it. The apple news app seems pretty tabloidy too (although not as bad) so I'm cautious about projecting my taste onto others.
squarefoot 4y ago
At this point, I wouldn't be that surprised if people working at Microsoft competitors would receive more distracting junk.