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Is that what I find amazing is that Americans, especially older americans, have not caught on to the fact that apparently the government and the insurance compa

Is that what I find amazing is that Americans, especially older americans, have not caught on to the fact that apparently the government and the insurance companies colluded to make Medicare confusing.. in order to drive senior citizens into the arms of the insurance companies because they can't figure out what's going on with the Medicare situation

ngngngng 4y ago
To be frank, you don't have to look long to find ample evidence of our government being a disaster. COVID is fresh in everyone's minds and everything about that situation was horrifically mismanaged. We all know the healthcare situation is terrible but the main politicians that want to change this offer 100% government controlled single payer healthcare as the only solution. That would take us from the least socialized system in the world, to literally the most socialized system in the world. I don't think you have to try very hard to imagine why people are uncomfortable with that. Edit: Never make one slight error on HN or your entire point is invalid, it would be one of the most socialized by the legislative proposals, but not literally the most.
- worik 4y ago
  > , to literally the most socialized system in the world. Well there is Cuba. The best health system in the world, many say.
  - whitemary 4y ago
    During the heights of the pandemic, the Cuban health system sent over 2,000 doctors to 23 of the most affected countries. No other country sent nearly that many doctors elsewhere, and Cuba is a tiny place!
- bradleyjg 4y ago
  That would take us from the least socialized system in the world, to literally the most socialized system in the world. Single payer is “less socialist” than the UK system that has many of the healthcare providers working directly for the government. Likewise, the US is not the “least socialist” today. In Nigeria most people just pay out of pocket for healthcare.
  - whitemary 4y ago
    Nigeria sounds like paradise! I wonder why more Americans don't move there.
ars 4y ago
I'm not sold on the "collusion" thing. Every government service I've ever (tried to) use has been confusing and difficult to apply for. It always seemed to me like it's the government wanting people not to get services in order to reduce costs. But I suspect it's more the government being too obsessed with making sure only those who "deserve it" get services. Just give everyone the benefit and take it back in taxes later. It would cost less in paperwork.
- donw 4y ago
  Have worked in government. The real answer is more that there's a billion committees, each of which has something they absolutely have to push through, because they have to do something to solve the problem. Also: The paperwork is the goal. Reduce that, and people lose jobs.
  - BigCryo 4y ago
    the more complex and labyrinthine the government business processes, the more work created for government workers
- BigCryo 4y ago
  I am retired and drawing a government pension. What they do is they assign idiots to do these tasks that they want to be messed up.. deliberately they assign idiots

ngngngng 4y ago

To be frank, you don't have to look long to find ample evidence of our government being a disaster. COVID is fresh in everyone's minds and everything about that situation was horrifically mismanaged. We all know the healthcare situation is terrible but the main politicians that want to change this offer 100% government controlled single payer healthcare as the only solution. That would take us from the least socialized system in the world, to literally the most socialized system in the world. I don't think you have to try very hard to imagine why people are uncomfortable with that. Edit: Never make one slight error on HN or your entire point is invalid, it would be one of the most socialized by the legislative proposals, but not literally the most.

worik 4y ago
> , to literally the most socialized system in the world. Well there is Cuba. The best health system in the world, many say.
- whitemary 4y ago
  During the heights of the pandemic, the Cuban health system sent over 2,000 doctors to 23 of the most affected countries. No other country sent nearly that many doctors elsewhere, and Cuba is a tiny place!
bradleyjg 4y ago
That would take us from the least socialized system in the world, to literally the most socialized system in the world. Single payer is “less socialist” than the UK system that has many of the healthcare providers working directly for the government. Likewise, the US is not the “least socialist” today. In Nigeria most people just pay out of pocket for healthcare.
- whitemary 4y ago
  Nigeria sounds like paradise! I wonder why more Americans don't move there.

ars 4y ago

I'm not sold on the "collusion" thing. Every government service I've ever (tried to) use has been confusing and difficult to apply for. It always seemed to me like it's the government wanting people not to get services in order to reduce costs. But I suspect it's more the government being too obsessed with making sure only those who "deserve it" get services. Just give everyone the benefit and take it back in taxes later. It would cost less in paperwork.

donw 4y ago
Have worked in government. The real answer is more that there's a billion committees, each of which has something they absolutely have to push through, because they have to do something to solve the problem. Also: The paperwork is the goal. Reduce that, and people lose jobs.
- BigCryo 4y ago
  the more complex and labyrinthine the government business processes, the more work created for government workers
BigCryo 4y ago
I am retired and drawing a government pension. What they do is they assign idiots to do these tasks that they want to be messed up.. deliberately they assign idiots