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> Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. This is the trap I keep seeing people on this s

by notamy 4y ago

> Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. This is the trap I keep seeing people on this site fall into. You don't do it, but that's not the same as nobody does it. What about teenagers currently growing up with it? What about when they have kids who are primarily fed this content? ... > They need medicine and healthcare. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 "Capabilities of GPT-4 on Medical Challenge Problems" It will only improve from here. > They want human companionship and community. [...] Fall in love [...] https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users-fell-in-love-with-their-ai-chatbot-companion/102028196 https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users... "Replika users fell in love with their AI chatbot companions. Then they lost them" > They want to travel and see and experience new things. [...] AI isn’t going to replace flying to Italy and experiencing it for myself. GPT and Midjourney and etc. may not do this on their own. But current, active research is ongoing for brain implants, there's all sorts of stuff around VR/AR lately, ... If there's a chip in my brain and a synthetic version being pushed in, what's the difference if it "actually happened," if the experience can be synthetically replicated? I just have to remember that it did. This may not be possible today, or in 5 years, or even in 10 years. But someone will eventually make it possible if ethics and legislation don't catch up first.

monero-xmr 4y ago
I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I just don’t think the future is scary just because technology is developing.
- notamy 4y ago
  > I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I mean this in the most respectful way possible, this is missing the forest for the trees. On their own none of these things looks bad. Putting them together, given what we already know about human psychology and how much it's been manipulated with technology, it's scary. Look at all the "fake news" commentary around certain American elections. Regardless of your political position, the scale at which that sort of thing was happening should give anyone pause. These tools in their current form already allow for that sort of manipulation on a scale we've never dealt with before. What happens when these tools are 10x or 100x better? What happens to the generation of kids and teens being raised to think all of this is completely fine, without any of the privacy / ethics / etc. concerns? What happens to their kids? I know this sounds like "but think of the children!!1" but we've already seen what happens to young kids with things like YouTube: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/youtube-is-causing-stress-and-sexualization-in-young-children.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/youtube-is-causing-stress-an... (2018) > Mental health experts warn that fear-inducing videos affect brain development in young children. https://www.vox.com/recode/22412232/youtube-kids-autoplay https://www.vox.com/recode/22412232/youtube-kids-autoplay (2021) > But child safety advocates and some members of Congress say there’s a problem with the app and corresponding website: an autoplay feature that keeps one video coming after another with no pause or interruption. When one video ends, another video selected by YouTube Kids’ recommendations algorithm automatically plays. Right now, autoplay is on by default, and there is no way to turn off autoplay, so YouTube Kids will continue to feed children algorithmically curated videos that run indefinitely unless someone happens to show up and intervene. Especially with that second case, a small-enough child won't know that it's bad for them. And as parents resort to these apps more and more, as the tools for generating content at absurd scale get more and more accessible, it starts to not look good. You can argue parental responsibility, but American society -- where a lot of this stuff takes root first -- is built around not making that easy, since so many households have both parents working, sometimes multiple jobs.

by notamy 4y ago

monero-xmr 4y ago

I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I just don’t think the future is scary just because technology is developing.

notamy 4y ago
> I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I mean this in the most respectful way possible, this is missing the forest for the trees. On their own none of these things looks bad. Putting them together, given what we already know about human psychology and how much it's been manipulated with technology, it's scary. Look at all the "fake news" commentary around certain American elections. Regardless of your political position, the scale at which that sort of thing was happening should give anyone pause. These tools in their current form already allow for that sort of manipulation on a scale we've never dealt with before. What happens when these tools are 10x or 100x better? What happens to the generation of kids and teens being raised to think all of this is completely fine, without any of the privacy / ethics / etc. concerns? What happens to their kids? I know this sounds like "but think of the children!!1" but we've already seen what happens to young kids with things like YouTube: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/youtube-is-causing-stress-and-sexualization-in-young-children.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/youtube-is-causing-stress-an... (2018) > Mental health experts warn that fear-inducing videos affect brain development in young children. https://www.vox.com/recode/22412232/youtube-kids-autoplay https://www.vox.com/recode/22412232/youtube-kids-autoplay (2021) > But child safety advocates and some members of Congress say there’s a problem with the app and corresponding website: an autoplay feature that keeps one video coming after another with no pause or interruption. When one video ends, another video selected by YouTube Kids’ recommendations algorithm automatically plays. Right now, autoplay is on by default, and there is no way to turn off autoplay, so YouTube Kids will continue to feed children algorithmically curated videos that run indefinitely unless someone happens to show up and intervene. Especially with that second case, a small-enough child won't know that it's bad for them. And as parents resort to these apps more and more, as the tools for generating content at absurd scale get more and more accessible, it starts to not look good. You can argue parental responsibility, but American society -- where a lot of this stuff takes root first -- is built around not making that easy, since so many households have both parents working, sometimes multiple jobs.