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I think you are under estimating the bar for quality content. There is already an endless stream of content mass produced, whether by automated mechanisms or mi

I think you are under estimating the bar for quality content. There is already an endless stream of content mass produced, whether by automated mechanisms or middling creators. You have to truly believe that epic, genre-defining works of art popular in mass media (not a generated static image but an entire movie or TV series) will be created by AI. Also a lot of art is intertwined with the artist. The musician, actor, and comedian often have a public persona tied in with their creative output. An AI won’t be relatable in the same way. I can buy mass produced beer at the grocery store. I can also pay 5x the price for artisanal craft beer from my local brewery. I appreciate the latter far more.

notamy 4y ago
> I think you are under estimating the bar for quality content. There is already an endless stream of content mass produced, whether by automated mechanisms or middling creators. You have to truly believe that epic, genre-defining works of art popular in mass media (not a generated static image but an entire movie or TV series) will be created by AI. My worry is more along the lines of TikTok, YouTube, etc. Look at how scarily good TikTok is at quickly pigeonholing you into your interests. "TikTok but AI-backed and always showing you exactly what you want to see" scares me. I'm not even necessarily worried about 5 or even 10 years down the road from now, but I can see it coming. People already use GPT models for writing papers, books, ... There's Midjourney etc. for image generation from nothing. I'm sure books have already been published this way, and the technology will only get better. What happens when your TikTok feed is always exactly what you want to see, even though the video itself was just generated a moment before? On its own it may not seem like such a bad thing, but there's also exploration of VR and AR, brain implants, ... Do we really want to live in a world where what we consume is primarily just ML-generated content, tailored specifically to the exact user, to the point where there may not even necessarily be shared experiences per se to bond over? Maybe I'm just fatalistic, but this technology has extremely high potential for abuse, and people seem to just ignore the ethics of it more often than not.
- monero-xmr 4y ago
  Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. People have wants and needs. They need food and shelter. They need medicine and healthcare. They want human companionship and community. They want to travel and see and experience new things. They want to get wasted and party the night away. Fall in love and have kids. Nothing I previously described is going to be radically changed by AI. Entertainment likely will be in fundamental ways, but AI isn’t going to replace flying to Italy and experiencing it for myself.
  - notamy 4y ago
    > Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. This is the trap I keep seeing people on this site fall into. You don't do it, but that's not the same as nobody does it. What about teenagers currently growing up with it? What about when they have kids who are primarily fed this content? ... > They need medicine and healthcare. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 "Capabilities of GPT-4 on Medical Challenge Problems" It will only improve from here. > They want human companionship and community. [...] Fall in love [...] https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users-fell-in-love-with-their-ai-chatbot-companion/102028196 https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users... "Replika users fell in love with their AI chatbot companions. Then they lost them" > They want to travel and see and experience new things. [...] AI isn’t going to replace flying to Italy and experiencing it for myself. GPT and Midjourney and etc. may not do this on their own. But current, active research is ongoing for brain implants, there's all sorts of stuff around VR/AR lately, ... If there's a chip in my brain and a synthetic version being pushed in, what's the difference if it "actually happened," if the experience can be synthetically replicated? I just have to remember that it did. This may not be possible today, or in 5 years, or even in 10 years. But someone will eventually make it possible if ethics and legislation don't catch up first.
    - monero-xmr 4y ago
      I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I just don’t think the future is scary just because technology is developing.

notamy 4y ago

> I think you are under estimating the bar for quality content. There is already an endless stream of content mass produced, whether by automated mechanisms or middling creators. You have to truly believe that epic, genre-defining works of art popular in mass media (not a generated static image but an entire movie or TV series) will be created by AI. My worry is more along the lines of TikTok, YouTube, etc. Look at how scarily good TikTok is at quickly pigeonholing you into your interests. "TikTok but AI-backed and always showing you exactly what you want to see" scares me. I'm not even necessarily worried about 5 or even 10 years down the road from now, but I can see it coming. People already use GPT models for writing papers, books, ... There's Midjourney etc. for image generation from nothing. I'm sure books have already been published this way, and the technology will only get better. What happens when your TikTok feed is always exactly what you want to see, even though the video itself was just generated a moment before? On its own it may not seem like such a bad thing, but there's also exploration of VR and AR, brain implants, ... Do we really want to live in a world where what we consume is primarily just ML-generated content, tailored specifically to the exact user, to the point where there may not even necessarily be shared experiences per se to bond over? Maybe I'm just fatalistic, but this technology has extremely high potential for abuse, and people seem to just ignore the ethics of it more often than not.

monero-xmr 4y ago
Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. People have wants and needs. They need food and shelter. They need medicine and healthcare. They want human companionship and community. They want to travel and see and experience new things. They want to get wasted and party the night away. Fall in love and have kids. Nothing I previously described is going to be radically changed by AI. Entertainment likely will be in fundamental ways, but AI isn’t going to replace flying to Italy and experiencing it for myself.
- notamy 4y ago
  > Maybe I’m just unique but I dislike Tik Tok, and the art I consume is primarily movies and non-fiction books. This is the trap I keep seeing people on this site fall into. You don't do it, but that's not the same as nobody does it. What about teenagers currently growing up with it? What about when they have kids who are primarily fed this content? ... > They need medicine and healthcare. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35319778 "Capabilities of GPT-4 on Medical Challenge Problems" It will only improve from here. > They want human companionship and community. [...] Fall in love [...] https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users-fell-in-love-with-their-ai-chatbot-companion/102028196 https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/replika-users... "Replika users fell in love with their AI chatbot companions. Then they lost them" > They want to travel and see and experience new things. [...] AI isn’t going to replace flying to Italy and experiencing it for myself. GPT and Midjourney and etc. may not do this on their own. But current, active research is ongoing for brain implants, there's all sorts of stuff around VR/AR lately, ... If there's a chip in my brain and a synthetic version being pushed in, what's the difference if it "actually happened," if the experience can be synthetically replicated? I just have to remember that it did. This may not be possible today, or in 5 years, or even in 10 years. But someone will eventually make it possible if ethics and legislation don't catch up first.
  - monero-xmr 4y ago
    I’m not worried about any of that. If healthcare can be more widespread, effective, and affordable that’s a great thing. And if someone wants to beam stuff into their mind that’s not radically different from watching a movie. I just don’t think the future is scary just because technology is developing.