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The physical labour jobs will be solved “soon” after AGI, as robotics is mostly a software/ai/perception problem. Yes, currently robotics hardware kind of sucks

The physical labour jobs will be solved “soon” after AGI, as robotics is mostly a software/ai/perception problem. Yes, currently robotics hardware kind of sucks, but it sucks because of a lack of investment due to a lack of software. If there were suddenly ~$100B going into robotics like there is going into AI, then many of those hardware issues would be solved very quickly. Especially if you have an AGI hive mind to throw at the problem.

BoGoToTo 4y ago
Then what? What happens when nobody is employable?
- Jensson 4y ago
  It means the rich no longer needs the poor. If robots also replaces the military it means that the rich no longer needs to fear the poor. With both of those out of the equation things aren't looking great for the poor.
  - olup 4y ago
    The rich still needs the poor to buy the crap his/her company is making that makes him/her rich. He needs the poor to have enough money for that.
    - DethNinja 4y ago
      This does not even make the slightest sense, who cares about money when you can subjugate the masses in other ways. It is only a power game at this point. And if most of the population becomes useless, why would any psychopath keep them around? I’m sure it can’t be that hard to exterminate most of the humanity.
- awesomeMilou 4y ago
  It's not going to happen anytime soon. These language models take several bleeding edge GPU's to run at a reasonable performance. Vision to the likes of how humans perceive detail is another dimension of complexity. There have been groundbreaking advances in machine vision over the past 20 years, yet we still cannot build a robot that folds clothes efficiently [0]. Arguably, this is not only because of vision, but also dexterity, but both are currently of what a human can perform. But if it happens, likely legislators will regulate AI. Most western governments already provide job procurement programs through being employed by them. Which is a good thing, but HN doesn't like to hear that. The reality is that most people need a job to feel fulfilled and be a healthy member of society. Which could change, but It's not going to happen until this technology falls into the hands of the common people instead of being controlled by large corporations. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jc6iQZN-uA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jc6iQZN-uA (Robot is recorded at 4x realtime)
- antibasilisk 4y ago
  paupercide.

BoGoToTo 4y ago

Then what? What happens when nobody is employable?

Jensson 4y ago
It means the rich no longer needs the poor. If robots also replaces the military it means that the rich no longer needs to fear the poor. With both of those out of the equation things aren't looking great for the poor.
- olup 4y ago
  The rich still needs the poor to buy the crap his/her company is making that makes him/her rich. He needs the poor to have enough money for that.
  - DethNinja 4y ago
    This does not even make the slightest sense, who cares about money when you can subjugate the masses in other ways. It is only a power game at this point. And if most of the population becomes useless, why would any psychopath keep them around? I’m sure it can’t be that hard to exterminate most of the humanity.
awesomeMilou 4y ago
It's not going to happen anytime soon. These language models take several bleeding edge GPU's to run at a reasonable performance. Vision to the likes of how humans perceive detail is another dimension of complexity. There have been groundbreaking advances in machine vision over the past 20 years, yet we still cannot build a robot that folds clothes efficiently [0]. Arguably, this is not only because of vision, but also dexterity, but both are currently of what a human can perform. But if it happens, likely legislators will regulate AI. Most western governments already provide job procurement programs through being employed by them. Which is a good thing, but HN doesn't like to hear that. The reality is that most people need a job to feel fulfilled and be a healthy member of society. Which could change, but It's not going to happen until this technology falls into the hands of the common people instead of being controlled by large corporations. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jc6iQZN-uA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jc6iQZN-uA (Robot is recorded at 4x realtime)
antibasilisk 4y ago
paupercide.