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Assuming this requires a premium subscription to chatgpt, this might actually push me to sign up. Never thought I'd see the day I'd pay OpenAI a cent given tha

by junon 4y ago

Assuming this requires a premium subscription to chatgpt, this might actually push me to sign up. Never thought I'd see the day I'd pay OpenAI a cent given that I don't really agree with their level of "open"ness.

kypro 4y ago
I actually took a look at the pricing after seeing this. I'm a complete blender noob, but I find myself using it every now and then. Something like this would be great for a lot of the stuff I want it for.
darkvertex 4y ago
You don't need ChatGPT Plus, but you do need to get an API key and give them your credit card so they can bill you at the end of the month. It's very cheap though! $1 is worth about 375 thousand words.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  GPT-4 API costs $0.03-$0.12/1000 tokens (the top for prompt tokens on the 8k context option, the top for response tokens on the 32k context option, and response on 8k and prompt on 32k are $0.06/1000), so best case about 33,000 tokens/$. tokens:words is about 4:3, so that’s about 25,000 words/$, not 375,000 words/$. (Practically, you aren’t going to get quite the ideal even on the 8k context option because you are going to use at least some response tokens on each request, though I would imagine text -> software controls can be optimized so that the response is fairly token-efficient in most cases.) Also, GPT-4 API access is in limited-access with a waitlist that is advertised as prioritized based on submitting AI evaluation cases to OpenAI’s repository.
barking_biscuit 4y ago
>I don't really agree with their level of "open"ness I see this complaint a lot, but after watching a lot of interviews with the founders, I think they have by and large taken the right approach. They're trying to drip feed things at a rate that allows it to be digested enough by all parties before releasing more. They actually appear to be quite principled thinkers on this topic.
- junon 4y ago
  I think the "holier than thou" approach is rather narcissistic personally. Their rationale has basically been that the world isn't ready, which is rather ridiculous to me.
  - barking_biscuit 4y ago
    >I think the "holier than thou" approach is rather narcissistic personally. This seems like a rather shallow interpretation. What's the actual claim here? That Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and Ilya Sutskever all have narcissistic personality disorder? If you were in there shoes, what would you do and what would the rationale be? What might some of the consequences be? From listening to interviews with them, they seem to be cognizant of the fact that all of this tech will inevitably get into the hands of the public one way or another. They seem mostly to be trying to give people as much time to process the shift that's happening, think through potential implications, and try to adjust as necessary.

by junon 4y ago

kypro 4y ago

I actually took a look at the pricing after seeing this. I'm a complete blender noob, but I find myself using it every now and then. Something like this would be great for a lot of the stuff I want it for.

darkvertex 4y ago

You don't need ChatGPT Plus, but you do need to get an API key and give them your credit card so they can bill you at the end of the month. It's very cheap though! $1 is worth about 375 thousand words.

dragonwriter 4y ago
GPT-4 API costs $0.03-$0.12/1000 tokens (the top for prompt tokens on the 8k context option, the top for response tokens on the 32k context option, and response on 8k and prompt on 32k are $0.06/1000), so best case about 33,000 tokens/$. tokens:words is about 4:3, so that’s about 25,000 words/$, not 375,000 words/$. (Practically, you aren’t going to get quite the ideal even on the 8k context option because you are going to use at least some response tokens on each request, though I would imagine text -> software controls can be optimized so that the response is fairly token-efficient in most cases.) Also, GPT-4 API access is in limited-access with a waitlist that is advertised as prioritized based on submitting AI evaluation cases to OpenAI’s repository.

barking_biscuit 4y ago

>I don't really agree with their level of "open"ness I see this complaint a lot, but after watching a lot of interviews with the founders, I think they have by and large taken the right approach. They're trying to drip feed things at a rate that allows it to be digested enough by all parties before releasing more. They actually appear to be quite principled thinkers on this topic.

junon 4y ago
I think the "holier than thou" approach is rather narcissistic personally. Their rationale has basically been that the world isn't ready, which is rather ridiculous to me.
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  >I think the "holier than thou" approach is rather narcissistic personally. This seems like a rather shallow interpretation. What's the actual claim here? That Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and Ilya Sutskever all have narcissistic personality disorder? If you were in there shoes, what would you do and what would the rationale be? What might some of the consequences be? From listening to interviews with them, they seem to be cognizant of the fact that all of this tech will inevitably get into the hands of the public one way or another. They seem mostly to be trying to give people as much time to process the shift that's happening, think through potential implications, and try to adjust as necessary.