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There is one on r/chess: https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/122wakh/fide_womens_grand_prix_collapses_into_chaos_as/jdt1max/ https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/

There is one on r/chess: https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/122wakh/fide_womens_grand_prix_collapses_into_chaos_as/jdt1max/ https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/122wakh/fide_womens_...

dmix 4y ago
Are these chess tournos usually this dramatic or was this just an atypical combination of geopolitics seeping into sport and other issues gaining purchase out of the sum of the chaos?
- vkou 4y ago
  Chess, like any other highly competitive international sport has a lot of drama. One of the big problems with it is that white is heavily advantaged, there's a large incentive for incumbents to play for a draw, and playing back-to-back matches is incredibly exhausting. Any attempts at correcting for this can result in an unfair set of rules for someone.
  - ahi 4y ago
    Not enough money in it either. Highly competitive people arent exactly known for their social maturity, but other sports/comps have entourages and $ to keep them in line. This read like the minutes of an academic department meeting.
- Bud 4y ago
  Definitely not that atypical. Go read about Fischer v. Spassky, for instance.
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- pncnmnp 4y ago
  I've been following chess tournaments for around two years now. Usually, they aren't this dramatic. In fact, more often than not, you have no clue what tournament is coming up next as there's little to no promotion happening for these events. For instance, the FIDE World Chess Championship between Ian Nepomniachtchi and Ding Liren is starting in about two weeks, and there's hardly any hype related to it. However, once the tournament starts and there are some interesting results, hype gradually builds up. Like when Carlsen lost two back-to-back games against Giri and Abdusattorov, there was quite a bit of interest in the tournament. Or the famous Carlsen vs. Niemann controversy.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    How is Niemann's lawsuit coming along?
    - pncnmnp 4y ago
      Looks like FIDE is conducting an investigation. Their Fair Play Commission has recently submitted a report that has now been forwarded to the Ethics and Disciplinary Commission. https://www.chessdom.com/fide-fair-play-commission-forwards-their-report-on-the-carlsen-niemann-case-to-the-fide-ethics-and-disciplinary-commission/ https://www.chessdom.com/fide-fair-play-commission-forwards-...
- quadrifoliate 4y ago
  > Are these chess tournos usually this dramatic Chess lately has been pretty dramatic, Google "Hans Niemann cheating allegations" if you don't already know -- in my opinion, far more dramatic than this.
blondin 4y ago
great example of the versatility of the human mind. i was about to pipe the entire article into ChatGPT. exactly like the other comment. but i realized it had screenshots of tweets and instagram posts. people do this in case the original authors changed their mind. ChatGPT can't take images as input (afaik). for a human mind, the text in these screenshots are part of what the article is trying to say. the medium is changing mid-article, but the story is the same. it could have been a video, a voice recording. a human mind would extract their content and incorporate it back into the main story the article is telling.
- quenix 4y ago
  FWIW, GPT-4 can take images as input.
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There is one on r/chess: https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/122wakh/fide_womens_grand_prix_collapses_into_chaos_as/jdt1max/ https://old.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/122wakh/fide_womens_...

dmix 4y ago

Are these chess tournos usually this dramatic or was this just an atypical combination of geopolitics seeping into sport and other issues gaining purchase out of the sum of the chaos?

vkou 4y ago
Chess, like any other highly competitive international sport has a lot of drama. One of the big problems with it is that white is heavily advantaged, there's a large incentive for incumbents to play for a draw, and playing back-to-back matches is incredibly exhausting. Any attempts at correcting for this can result in an unfair set of rules for someone.
- ahi 4y ago
  Not enough money in it either. Highly competitive people arent exactly known for their social maturity, but other sports/comps have entourages and $ to keep them in line. This read like the minutes of an academic department meeting.
Bud 4y ago
Definitely not that atypical. Go read about Fischer v. Spassky, for instance.
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pncnmnp 4y ago
I've been following chess tournaments for around two years now. Usually, they aren't this dramatic. In fact, more often than not, you have no clue what tournament is coming up next as there's little to no promotion happening for these events. For instance, the FIDE World Chess Championship between Ian Nepomniachtchi and Ding Liren is starting in about two weeks, and there's hardly any hype related to it. However, once the tournament starts and there are some interesting results, hype gradually builds up. Like when Carlsen lost two back-to-back games against Giri and Abdusattorov, there was quite a bit of interest in the tournament. Or the famous Carlsen vs. Niemann controversy.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  How is Niemann's lawsuit coming along?
  - pncnmnp 4y ago
    Looks like FIDE is conducting an investigation. Their Fair Play Commission has recently submitted a report that has now been forwarded to the Ethics and Disciplinary Commission. https://www.chessdom.com/fide-fair-play-commission-forwards-their-report-on-the-carlsen-niemann-case-to-the-fide-ethics-and-disciplinary-commission/ https://www.chessdom.com/fide-fair-play-commission-forwards-...
quadrifoliate 4y ago
> Are these chess tournos usually this dramatic Chess lately has been pretty dramatic, Google "Hans Niemann cheating allegations" if you don't already know -- in my opinion, far more dramatic than this.

blondin 4y ago

great example of the versatility of the human mind. i was about to pipe the entire article into ChatGPT. exactly like the other comment. but i realized it had screenshots of tweets and instagram posts. people do this in case the original authors changed their mind. ChatGPT can't take images as input (afaik). for a human mind, the text in these screenshots are part of what the article is trying to say. the medium is changing mid-article, but the story is the same. it could have been a video, a voice recording. a human mind would extract their content and incorporate it back into the main story the article is telling.

quenix 4y ago
FWIW, GPT-4 can take images as input.

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