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>When I first moved to the city in which I live there were NO homeless. That was in 1980. The same people were still unemployed and on the fringe of society. T

>When I first moved to the city in which I live there were NO homeless. That was in 1980. The same people were still unemployed and on the fringe of society. They just used to be rounded up and put in mental institutions. The labor statistics are pretty clear that the 80s weren’t a better time for employment. Visible homelessness you are referring to is generally a drug policy issue more than anything.

Clubber 4y ago
>Visible homelessness you are referring to is generally a drug policy issue more than anything. Drug and/or alcohol abuse (not use) is often a symptom of an underlying condition, typically associated with despair. It's escapism. Despair: the complete loss or absence of hope. I think a lot of people suffer from despair in the US today. I remember in the 1980s, farmers were killing themselves at quite a high rate because of automation and consolidation (big agg) and them losing their family's farms. I think that same thing has caught up with the rest of the population in the last 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_the_Uni...
pydry 4y ago
Homeless != jobless. Theyre not the same thing. The statistics are pretty clear that the 80s were a MUCH better time to rent. Drug usage is mostly caused BY homelessness. There is a strong economic incentive in play explaining why you believe the opposite. We're told that homelessness is caused by drugs rather than endlessly rising rents because a lot of very rich people are making ungodly sums of money from endlessly rising rents and theyd like to continue. For that they need ownership of media and a good scapegoat - both of which many of them have. Not too many magazines owned by homeless people rather than property developers but if there were theyd tell the opposite story.
- kortilla 4y ago
  The people that maintain jobs aren’t the visible homeless OP is referring to. The dude in a tent on embarcadero shooting up isn’t working as a barista 40 hours a week.
  - pydry 4y ago
    He probably will be after 5-10 years of homelessness. Drugs salve the pain and despair of being homeless which becomes overwhelming after a few years on the street with no hope in sight. Theres no way somebody on a low wage is going to be able to afford rent anywhere near Embarcadero. The land-parasites have the market locked up.

Clubber 4y ago

>Visible homelessness you are referring to is generally a drug policy issue more than anything. Drug and/or alcohol abuse (not use) is often a symptom of an underlying condition, typically associated with despair. It's escapism. Despair: the complete loss or absence of hope. I think a lot of people suffer from despair in the US today. I remember in the 1980s, farmers were killing themselves at quite a high rate because of automation and consolidation (big agg) and them losing their family's farms. I think that same thing has caught up with the rest of the population in the last 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_the_Uni...

pydry 4y ago

Homeless != jobless. Theyre not the same thing. The statistics are pretty clear that the 80s were a MUCH better time to rent. Drug usage is mostly caused BY homelessness. There is a strong economic incentive in play explaining why you believe the opposite. We're told that homelessness is caused by drugs rather than endlessly rising rents because a lot of very rich people are making ungodly sums of money from endlessly rising rents and theyd like to continue. For that they need ownership of media and a good scapegoat - both of which many of them have. Not too many magazines owned by homeless people rather than property developers but if there were theyd tell the opposite story.

kortilla 4y ago
The people that maintain jobs aren’t the visible homeless OP is referring to. The dude in a tent on embarcadero shooting up isn’t working as a barista 40 hours a week.
- pydry 4y ago
  He probably will be after 5-10 years of homelessness. Drugs salve the pain and despair of being homeless which becomes overwhelming after a few years on the street with no hope in sight. Theres no way somebody on a low wage is going to be able to afford rent anywhere near Embarcadero. The land-parasites have the market locked up.