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Russia won the Eastern Front despite suffering dramatically higher casualties than the Germans China smashed the US at Chosin Resevoir despite dramatically hig

Russia won the Eastern Front despite suffering dramatically higher casualties than the Germans China smashed the US at Chosin Resevoir despite dramatically higher casualties Ho Chi Minh once said something like "ten Vietnamese will die for every US soldier that dies...we will win" and he was right keep that in mind every American should learn about Chosin Reservoir...a forgotten battle that may very well be the worst US military defeat since WW2, maybe the only time in recent history where US soldiers broke unit cohesion and were running for their lives

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Russia won the Eastern Front No, that was the Soviet Union. And, by modern Russia’s standards as used to describe the situation in Ukraine, you can’t really credit the USSR either, as it was really a proxy war by the USA against Nazi Germany.
poxrud 4y ago
USSR won because of American lend lease and Germany having to fight on two fronts. Modern wars are won with equipment and technology, not human wave attacks (see Russia Ukraine war)
- dogma1138 4y ago
  Lend lease wasn’t a major contributor to the eastern front, however the North African campaign was. It pushed German logistics off the edge, forcing them to allocate most of their heavy lift aircraft and fuel to try to keep North Africa. That said Ukraine isn’t binary case either. Russian problems in Ukraine seem to go well beyond just logistics and are plagued by lack of strategy and even a remotely competent military leadership. The technological advantage Ukraine has isn’t what led them to prevail. If Russia could employ even basic combined arms warfare and conduct organized advances that serve a singular strategic objective the result would likely be very different. The question is right now is where the people element of the Chinese military sits.
jandrewrogers 4y ago
Current US weaponry and doctrine were informed by their 20th century experiences with massed human attacks, which are still considered to be realistic scenarios in some theaters. They have many tools for effectively solving that problem at scale now.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Russia won the Eastern Front No, that was the Soviet Union. And, by modern Russia’s standards as used to describe the situation in Ukraine, you can’t really credit the USSR either, as it was really a proxy war by the USA against Nazi Germany.

poxrud 4y ago

USSR won because of American lend lease and Germany having to fight on two fronts. Modern wars are won with equipment and technology, not human wave attacks (see Russia Ukraine war)

dogma1138 4y ago
Lend lease wasn’t a major contributor to the eastern front, however the North African campaign was. It pushed German logistics off the edge, forcing them to allocate most of their heavy lift aircraft and fuel to try to keep North Africa. That said Ukraine isn’t binary case either. Russian problems in Ukraine seem to go well beyond just logistics and are plagued by lack of strategy and even a remotely competent military leadership. The technological advantage Ukraine has isn’t what led them to prevail. If Russia could employ even basic combined arms warfare and conduct organized advances that serve a singular strategic objective the result would likely be very different. The question is right now is where the people element of the Chinese military sits.

jandrewrogers 4y ago

Current US weaponry and doctrine were informed by their 20th century experiences with massed human attacks, which are still considered to be realistic scenarios in some theaters. They have many tools for effectively solving that problem at scale now.