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Anyone that's bought in during the past few years isn't early. Those that held pre-2017 are the ones that got in early. The rest could probably make better re

Anyone that's bought in during the past few years isn't early. Those that held pre-2017 are the ones that got in early. The rest could probably make better returns speculating in the US markets.

birracerveza 4y ago
5 years ago, somewhere on the internet: >Anyone that's bought in during the past few years isn't early. >Those that held pre-2012 are the ones that got in early. >The rest could probably make better returns speculating in the US markets.
- anonymouskimmer 4y ago
  Just like everything it depends on what you buy and when you buy and sell it. Post 2017 the largest theoretical gain from bitcoin so far was about 20x, if you bought at the post 2017 low in December of 2018 and sold at the 2021 high almost three years later. Gamestop stock almost matched that 20x for 2020-21 gains alone. Apple has been up well over 500x in the last 20 years. Ethereum was a better deal during this time, but you'd have to know to buy it. And some people really made bank on altcoins, but again, right time to buy, right time to sell. There's a limit on how much the crypto market can be worth with people still able to use it as a currency to buy things. Logarithmically we're closer to the top than to the original bottom, though like all markets timing can still yield very good returns, especially if everyone else is hodling like Fort Knox.
  - AviationAtom 4y ago
    That's the problem with many hyped assets: they're only profitable in the short term if you buy in before the pump, and sell before the dump. I still believe Ethereum is poised for a fair amount of growth in the long-term, though likely nothing near the rise it's enjoyed in it's last run. I say that only because it's an on-ramp to so many other cryptocurrencies.
    - anonymouskimmer 4y ago
      For those with enough Eth to stake, Ethereum has the bonus that so many stocks due: perpetual dividends. Unlike stocks Ethereum, as a whole, doesn't have a liquidation value. The dividends are it. And your particular share of the pie can be constantly diluted by further stakes. Is a vote required to allow further stakes? Or can anyone stake if they meet criteria? This strikes me more like a buyer's club than a stock.

Anyone that's bought in during the past few years isn't early. Those that held pre-2017 are the ones that got in early. The rest could probably make better returns speculating in the US markets.

birracerveza 4y ago

5 years ago, somewhere on the internet: >Anyone that's bought in during the past few years isn't early. >Those that held pre-2012 are the ones that got in early. >The rest could probably make better returns speculating in the US markets.

anonymouskimmer 4y ago
Just like everything it depends on what you buy and when you buy and sell it. Post 2017 the largest theoretical gain from bitcoin so far was about 20x, if you bought at the post 2017 low in December of 2018 and sold at the 2021 high almost three years later. Gamestop stock almost matched that 20x for 2020-21 gains alone. Apple has been up well over 500x in the last 20 years. Ethereum was a better deal during this time, but you'd have to know to buy it. And some people really made bank on altcoins, but again, right time to buy, right time to sell. There's a limit on how much the crypto market can be worth with people still able to use it as a currency to buy things. Logarithmically we're closer to the top than to the original bottom, though like all markets timing can still yield very good returns, especially if everyone else is hodling like Fort Knox.
- AviationAtom 4y ago
  That's the problem with many hyped assets: they're only profitable in the short term if you buy in before the pump, and sell before the dump. I still believe Ethereum is poised for a fair amount of growth in the long-term, though likely nothing near the rise it's enjoyed in it's last run. I say that only because it's an on-ramp to so many other cryptocurrencies.
  - anonymouskimmer 4y ago
    For those with enough Eth to stake, Ethereum has the bonus that so many stocks due: perpetual dividends. Unlike stocks Ethereum, as a whole, doesn't have a liquidation value. The dividends are it. And your particular share of the pie can be constantly diluted by further stakes. Is a vote required to allow further stakes? Or can anyone stake if they meet criteria? This strikes me more like a buyer's club than a stock.