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Trivializes "ethical" AI. Countries and organizations are using facial recognition to decide what people are allowed to do, all sorts of opaque and life alterin

Trivializes "ethical" AI. Countries and organizations are using facial recognition to decide what people are allowed to do, all sorts of opaque and life altering decisions get made with ML, but people are concerned about whether a chatbot says "I" or an image generator over or under represents demographics in pictures of CEOs and homemakers or whatever. People suck at prioritizing and love to be fed a narrative.

zzzeek 4y ago
Convincing someone to kill themselves out of shame of upsetting an imagined being seems pretty life altering to me ...
- echelon 4y ago
  If that worries you, it's not going to stop there. Just wait until the humanoid robots can pick up handguns. Worse - fragile world here - wait until humanoid robots become as cheap as drones and everyone can buy them. How many irresponsible drone pilots and drivers do you see? Just wait until they can have humanoid bodies walking around at their disposal. We might have a lot of accidents due to sheer stupidity rather than malice.
  - vasco 4y ago
    Not humanoid but https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM
    - echelon 4y ago
      Wow. Reminds me of https://youtu.be/9fa9lVwHHqg https://youtu.be/9fa9lVwHHqg
  - zzzeek 4y ago
    Fluid access to handguns and military style weapons is an intractable problem with nothing more than the example of virtually every industrialized nation on earth besides the US to go on for hints towards improvement. AI wielding handguns is nothing , wait until they build skynet and invent time travel. Might as well give up now
    - morelisp 4y ago
      To paraphrase the joke that's been going around about Children of Men / Britain, perhaps in Terminator it's just California that's chose to be like that because they kept building the stupid robots for the next VC injection.
      - boppo1 4y ago
        What's the joke?
  - fanagra32 4y ago
    That can easily be solved by outlawing them. Just like it has been solved with handguns everywhere except the U.S. which keeps refusing to realize that their 2nd amendmend is just harmful. Luckily it's about guns and not about robots, so at least they will be able to regulate that.
- tedunangst 4y ago
  Seems we should ban the word "you" instead in that case.
wmf 4y ago
Multiple things can be worked on at the same time.
- crop_rotation 4y ago
  In theory, yes. In reality, everyone has limited time and energy and it is important to ensure that the pressing problems are not ignored to make time for much less important problems.
echelon 4y ago
> People suck at prioritizing and love to be fed a narrative. The loud attention seekers do. They're not a majority unless you measure and determine it to be the case. I strongly suspect they're not.
morelisp 4y ago
Google et al fired everyone working on the wicked ethical problems, now there's only the ones you can throw in a KPI and show "improvement" on.
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zzzeek 4y ago

Convincing someone to kill themselves out of shame of upsetting an imagined being seems pretty life altering to me ...

echelon 4y ago
If that worries you, it's not going to stop there. Just wait until the humanoid robots can pick up handguns. Worse - fragile world here - wait until humanoid robots become as cheap as drones and everyone can buy them. How many irresponsible drone pilots and drivers do you see? Just wait until they can have humanoid bodies walking around at their disposal. We might have a lot of accidents due to sheer stupidity rather than malice.
- vasco 4y ago
  Not humanoid but https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM
  - echelon 4y ago
    Wow. Reminds me of https://youtu.be/9fa9lVwHHqg https://youtu.be/9fa9lVwHHqg
- zzzeek 4y ago
  Fluid access to handguns and military style weapons is an intractable problem with nothing more than the example of virtually every industrialized nation on earth besides the US to go on for hints towards improvement. AI wielding handguns is nothing , wait until they build skynet and invent time travel. Might as well give up now
  - morelisp 4y ago
    To paraphrase the joke that's been going around about Children of Men / Britain, perhaps in Terminator it's just California that's chose to be like that because they kept building the stupid robots for the next VC injection.
    - boppo1 4y ago
      What's the joke?
- fanagra32 4y ago
  That can easily be solved by outlawing them. Just like it has been solved with handguns everywhere except the U.S. which keeps refusing to realize that their 2nd amendmend is just harmful. Luckily it's about guns and not about robots, so at least they will be able to regulate that.
tedunangst 4y ago
Seems we should ban the word "you" instead in that case.

wmf 4y ago

Multiple things can be worked on at the same time.

crop_rotation 4y ago
In theory, yes. In reality, everyone has limited time and energy and it is important to ensure that the pressing problems are not ignored to make time for much less important problems.

echelon 4y ago

> People suck at prioritizing and love to be fed a narrative. The loud attention seekers do. They're not a majority unless you measure and determine it to be the case. I strongly suspect they're not.

morelisp 4y ago

Google et al fired everyone working on the wicked ethical problems, now there's only the ones you can throw in a KPI and show "improvement" on.

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