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CRDTs are definitely an “unsung hero” of Apple Notes… and a big reason why it is one Apple’s best “built-in” apps as of late.
by eddyg 4y ago
CRDTs are definitely an “unsung hero” of Apple Notes… and a big reason why it is one Apple’s best “built-in” apps as of late.
- starbugs 4y agoIf they could now implement table resizing and tables that do not render with graphical errors, that would be so nice.
- howinteresting 4y agoA notes app that only works with one 2-trillion-dollar company's hardware and does not have builtin functionality to export notes (e.g. a menu option to do so) cannot reasonably be described as good. One's expectations have to be through the floor for that to be an honest appraisal. Compare it to Obsidian, which just stores data in a bunch of markdown files on disk.
- Kerrick 4y agoI can export to Text and/or PDF on my iPhone from the Notes app.
- howinteresting 4y agoWe're commenting on the website for a project called "Apple Notes Liberator". Obsidian does not need a "liberator".
- macintux 4y agoYou're moving the goalposts. Your first comment: > and does not have builtin functionality to export notes (e.g. a menu option to do so) That's incorrect: you can export to PDF. Certainly not as handy as Markdown, but it's there. Additionally, Apple offers AppleScript as a way to do even more. No, this isn't an open source piece of software. If that's your sole criteria for "good" then you're right, it's bad.
- eviks 4y agoNo goal posts move when the original issue is not resolved with the proposed solution Like, without any menu you can export your notes to a screenshot, but you wouldn't accept it as an export option, would you? Similarly, PDF is an awful format for notes, so the fact that it exists doesn't solve the issue that you can't export your notes (which at a minimum you need to be able to do in batches, not individual notes)
- gcr 4y agoMost users interpret "Export" as an operation that lossily finalizes a project from its native representation to a common third-party format. "Export" is one-way, "Save As" is bidirectional. - Audacity "Saves" audio projects to its native .aup, but can "Export" them to .mp3 or .wav - Photoshop "Saves" .psd files, but "Exports" them to .jpeg - Gimp "Saves" an .xcf, but "Exports" to .png - Apple Notes "Saves" notes to its own sqlite database, but "Exports" to txt or pdf via a menu item This technically satisfies your comment above, which is why we speak of moved goalposts. It would be great if apple notes could convert your note library to ENEX or a .zip file of HTML items.
- eviks 4y agoThis is not a project, and your examples are just the same biased multimedia project example, which is very much not rich text Export/import is about comm/direction, it does not (technically, just as you like it) imply loss. Also, technically we're discussing a comment from a specific person here, not from "most users". (Joplin also uses sqlite database for storage, that's another very interesting internal detail) So even technically you're wrong, but more importantly, you're missing the forest for the technicality tree
- howinteresting 4y agoOK, pretend that I edited my comment to say "batch export notes with full fidelity". Happy?
- eviks 4y agoThat doesn't count since text is destructive export is pdf is just as bad (also, batch export?)
- Gigachad 4y agoI don't actually care about getting some data dump out of Notes. I use it as a way to quickly store temporary information. Any note older than a month is most likely useless. The most important feature is that it effortlessly syncs between my phone, work laptop, and home laptop. And that it does. Unlike a bunch of markdown files on disk where you have to create some janky syncing setup yourself which has no conflict resolution system.
- howinteresting 4y agoObsidian Sync works great.
- veidr 4y agoI agree, but at USD $120/year it is expensive. (It's worth it to me, but I'd still prefer something equally easy-to-use, standards-based, but self-hosted with rounds-to-zero running costs.)