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> The devs say libinput is better because synaptics was too old, crufty, too configurable with too many edge cases to test... but from a user perspective I thin

by zatni 4y ago

> The devs say libinput is better because synaptics was too old, crufty, too configurable with too many edge cases to test... but from a user perspective I think synpatics was better. That has been the user story on the linux desktop since forever. Gnome 2 -> 3 Xorg -> Wayland Alsa -> Pulseaudio Synaptics -> libinput Every single time, it's better for the developer and removing user functionality and making life on the linux desktop more horrifying. Oh and gtk4 font rendering is broken for anyone who doesn't have a 300 DPI monitor. The current implementation of antialiasing causes blur. Can't even fix it by using a bitmap font as a replacement as they are no longer supported since the removal of FreeType. Sometimes one can't help but wonder if Red Hat is paid to sabotage the linux desktop and keep the OS firmly in the camp of server side.

tannhaeuser 4y ago
So much this. Maybe we can add containers for desktop apps which no end user wanted ever but might be easier for packaging apps running on every distro - except there are now snaps and flatpacks so back to square one with .deb and .rpm ;) Meanwhile there have been exactly zero new F/OSS desktop apps for over a decade except IDEs and even those are mostly Electron-based. What a mess.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  > Meanwhile there have been exactly zero new F/OSS desktop apps for over a decade except IDEs and even those are mostly Electron-based. What a mess. Er, that's just objectively not true. Here's exactly one new FOSS desktop app: https://github.com/quotient-im/Quaternion https://github.com/quotient-im/Quaternion - I don't know how old it is, but it's a Matrix client and Matrix is only 8 years old so less than a decade.
stametseater 4y ago
> Alsa -> Pulseaudio At least pipewire finally got it right, as far as I've experienced anyway. > Sometimes one can't help but wonder if Red Hat is paid to sabotage the linux desktop and keep the OS firmly in the camp of server side. The way it feels to me, Red Hat supports GNOME's continued existence because RHEL on workstations is something they want to exist at least on paper, but they have no real interest in making it a viable competitor to Windows.

by zatni 4y ago

tannhaeuser 4y ago

So much this. Maybe we can add containers for desktop apps which no end user wanted ever but might be easier for packaging apps running on every distro - except there are now snaps and flatpacks so back to square one with .deb and .rpm ;) Meanwhile there have been exactly zero new F/OSS desktop apps for over a decade except IDEs and even those are mostly Electron-based. What a mess.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> Meanwhile there have been exactly zero new F/OSS desktop apps for over a decade except IDEs and even those are mostly Electron-based. What a mess. Er, that's just objectively not true. Here's exactly one new FOSS desktop app: https://github.com/quotient-im/Quaternion https://github.com/quotient-im/Quaternion - I don't know how old it is, but it's a Matrix client and Matrix is only 8 years old so less than a decade.

stametseater 4y ago

> Alsa -> Pulseaudio At least pipewire finally got it right, as far as I've experienced anyway. > Sometimes one can't help but wonder if Red Hat is paid to sabotage the linux desktop and keep the OS firmly in the camp of server side. The way it feels to me, Red Hat supports GNOME's continued existence because RHEL on workstations is something they want to exist at least on paper, but they have no real interest in making it a viable competitor to Windows.