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Not sure why it got flagged but article has interesting experiment: > How about this: once your job is automated, you get an automation pension and get to rela
by pzo 4y ago
Not sure why it got flagged but article has interesting experiment:
> How about this: once your job is automated, you get an automation pension and get to relax for the rest of your life. Everyone will be praying their job is next.
It would be interesting if once your job is automated you get e.g. 1/3 or 1/2 of your salary - suddenly probably a lot of people would be actively helping to automate their job - sharing training data, labeling, testing, etc. Then you would move to some other industry and help to automate it as well.
- dogma1138 4y agoOk, and what happens to the next generation? Also if you can live on a half or a third of your salary you are in a far more privileged position than most.
- pzo 4y agoGood point about next generation. I guess this could be only interim solution until we automate most industries or those most essential just to at least cover bottom of maslov piramid. Living on half salary would just be to still motivate people to upskill themselves or don't be completely lazy. For the same reason unemployment benefits or UBI would cover only essential expenses as well. Otherwise what's the alternative? UBI I see only possible to be implemented post-scarcity globally - I doubt rich countries like USA would be willing to provide UBI for developing countries in current system and those latter are unlikely to be the winner in AI race.
- dogma1138 4y agoUBI is a dystopian nightmare it takes away the voice and power from the majority of the population. I really don’t know why people are even considering this disaster.
- xboxnolifes 4y agoI don't understand this position that UBI takes away the voice and power from the population. How? I can understand that the situation where UBI exists may be one where the population loses power, but I fail to see how UBI itself removes the power.
- dogma1138 4y agoBecause once you are no longer a productive member of society you become irrelevant. Also as the burden of UBI on the “productive” members of society which at that point might be only the large corporations increases it would inevitably lead to either universal basic services or a two tiered monetary system.
- xboxnolifes 4y agoUBI doesn't prevent available productive work. It doesn't take jobs away. How does it force people to no longer be productive members of society?
- ben_w 4y agoPensioners are no longer productive (or at least, that's the goal), but are extremely relevant politically.
- wahnfrieden 4y agoPlease check the research on this - humans are more productive when they have their basic needs covered with safety nets