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What if i like work? I like getting things done and the fact that there is infinite work is an opportunity to me. I 100% respect anyone who have other interests

What if i like work? I like getting things done and the fact that there is infinite work is an opportunity to me. I 100% respect anyone who have other interests, but I like how the work I do have an impact and I want to maximize that impact. Choosing to not engage is a perfectly fine choice, but if one makes that choice one should be aware that one will not have the same impact.

wahnfrieden 4y ago
Do you like work when someone else decides everything you work on and the impact you’re maximizing is the surplus they take from you? What I described is nearly all work as it exists today. I don’t think most people drown from sipping water
- youngNed 4y ago
  -- edit, parent post has been edited to be less confrontational making my post somewhat redundant.
  - waboremo 4y ago
    Unnecessary hyperbole. Here's what's happening: Article title: Not all water is good for you Person A: What if I like water? I enjoy drinking it Person B: Water in all contexts isn't great, for example you can drown. So what qualities about water do you specifically like? You see how it's less absurd? Hopefully that's made clear now. For future reference, turning everything into exaggerated hyperbole is only going to keep you contained in your isolated bubbles online and make you all the more sensitive to any sort of pushback/disagreement/criticism.
    - bckr 4y ago
      Agreed, but I think that just removing the all caps would make this a good little sarcastic comment.
klabb3 4y ago
This makes it a hobby, no? A bit unusual, but congrats!
kerkeslager 4y ago
Do you like all your work? Or are there things you do at work that you do only because you are obligated to do so? There's a saying, "Money ruins everything" which in this context is saying that even if you enjoy what you do for money, doing it for money makes it less enjoyable than if you did it for its own sake. When you aren't completely doing something by choice, you end up doing things that you wouldn't do by choice.
- Godel_unicode 4y ago
  > doing it for money makes it less enjoyable than if you did it for its own sake. The opposite is true for me. I’ve suckered my employer into paying me to do something I do for free on my own time. What fools.
  - kerkeslager 4y ago
    Please don't quote me out of context. You literally didn't even quote the whole sentence. You haven't responded to what I actually said.
    - Godel_unicode 4y ago
      Add as many of the source words as you want, the meaning is the same. Perhaps you should re-read my response?
      - kerkeslager 4y ago
        > Add as many of the source words as you want, the meaning is the same. Incorrect. If you're having any trouble figuring out what you missed, feel free to ask! > Perhaps you should re-read my response? I already addressed your response in the part of my post you didn't quote. As such, your post can't be considered a response to what I actually said.
        Godel_unicode 4y ago
        Is English not your first language? You keep saying “addressed” but from context you mean “ignored”. Hope that helps.
coldtea 4y ago
For most people the impact from their work is negative. The "selling more shit, destroying more environment, make more people obese, putting more ads to make people buy BS to feel something, making everybody lonelier, busier, and more disconected and depressed" kind of impact. If one's work indeed has a positive impact, say a doctor or a teacher or a nurse or a street cleaner, sure...
- flappyeagle 4y ago
  Still reduces to to the same thing. Doctor? You’re extending the life of people who sell shit. Teacher? You’re training future shit sellers. The entire industrialized economy runs off of extracting resources to create stuff.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >Still reduces to to the same thing. Doctor? You’re extending the life of people who sell shit. Teacher? You’re training future shit sellers. The difference being that a human life is valuable outside of what shit they sell in their job. They're also friends, spouses, parents, and, well, individuals. People are not reduced to their job. Whereas a job selling shit is a job selling shit. It doesn't "reduce to", it is 100% that and only that. Doctors will also treat criminals if they're shot etc., as they should - and it's a good thing. Doesn't mean crime is good. I mean, as much is obvious...
  - mewpmewp2 4y ago
    What a depressing world view.
  - carlivar 4y ago
    Is there any difference between this perspective and nihilism?
    - deleted 4y ago
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  - Aaronstotle 4y ago

wahnfrieden 4y ago

Do you like work when someone else decides everything you work on and the impact you’re maximizing is the surplus they take from you? What I described is nearly all work as it exists today. I don’t think most people drown from sipping water

youngNed 4y ago
-- edit, parent post has been edited to be less confrontational making my post somewhat redundant.
- waboremo 4y ago
  Unnecessary hyperbole. Here's what's happening: Article title: Not all water is good for you Person A: What if I like water? I enjoy drinking it Person B: Water in all contexts isn't great, for example you can drown. So what qualities about water do you specifically like? You see how it's less absurd? Hopefully that's made clear now. For future reference, turning everything into exaggerated hyperbole is only going to keep you contained in your isolated bubbles online and make you all the more sensitive to any sort of pushback/disagreement/criticism.
  - bckr 4y ago
    Agreed, but I think that just removing the all caps would make this a good little sarcastic comment.

klabb3 4y ago

This makes it a hobby, no? A bit unusual, but congrats!

kerkeslager 4y ago

Do you like all your work? Or are there things you do at work that you do only because you are obligated to do so? There's a saying, "Money ruins everything" which in this context is saying that even if you enjoy what you do for money, doing it for money makes it less enjoyable than if you did it for its own sake. When you aren't completely doing something by choice, you end up doing things that you wouldn't do by choice.

Godel_unicode 4y ago
> doing it for money makes it less enjoyable than if you did it for its own sake. The opposite is true for me. I’ve suckered my employer into paying me to do something I do for free on my own time. What fools.
- kerkeslager 4y ago
  Please don't quote me out of context. You literally didn't even quote the whole sentence. You haven't responded to what I actually said.
  - Godel_unicode 4y ago
    Add as many of the source words as you want, the meaning is the same. Perhaps you should re-read my response?
    - kerkeslager 4y ago
      > Add as many of the source words as you want, the meaning is the same. Incorrect. If you're having any trouble figuring out what you missed, feel free to ask! > Perhaps you should re-read my response? I already addressed your response in the part of my post you didn't quote. As such, your post can't be considered a response to what I actually said.
      - Godel_unicode 4y ago
        Is English not your first language? You keep saying “addressed” but from context you mean “ignored”. Hope that helps.

coldtea 4y ago

For most people the impact from their work is negative. The "selling more shit, destroying more environment, make more people obese, putting more ads to make people buy BS to feel something, making everybody lonelier, busier, and more disconected and depressed" kind of impact. If one's work indeed has a positive impact, say a doctor or a teacher or a nurse or a street cleaner, sure...

flappyeagle 4y ago
Still reduces to to the same thing. Doctor? You’re extending the life of people who sell shit. Teacher? You’re training future shit sellers. The entire industrialized economy runs off of extracting resources to create stuff.
- coldtea 4y ago
  >Still reduces to to the same thing. Doctor? You’re extending the life of people who sell shit. Teacher? You’re training future shit sellers. The difference being that a human life is valuable outside of what shit they sell in their job. They're also friends, spouses, parents, and, well, individuals. People are not reduced to their job. Whereas a job selling shit is a job selling shit. It doesn't "reduce to", it is 100% that and only that. Doctors will also treat criminals if they're shot etc., as they should - and it's a good thing. Doesn't mean crime is good. I mean, as much is obvious...
- mewpmewp2 4y ago
  What a depressing world view.
- carlivar 4y ago
  Is there any difference between this perspective and nihilism?
  - deleted 4y ago
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- Aaronstotle 4y ago