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I’ve always been a Debian man, any one know of a good reason to switch? On a somewhat adjacent topic: The copy writing in this is atrocious. Ironically, Micro

I’ve always been a Debian man, any one know of a good reason to switch? On a somewhat adjacent topic: The copy writing in this is atrocious. Ironically, Microsoft Word would have caught several of the errors and confusing statements I saw. Remember folks—editors are your friends. Pay a modest fee and make your public statements sound as good as you think they do with your wall-eyed author’s mind’s eye.

psydvl 4y ago
There is no one main point, but mostly, I'd like to mention open build service[1], where you can easily create and provide your own repo (but you also can create there one for debian); openSUSE Tumbleweed almost on bleeding edge for packages, but stable, so you can use latest GNOME/KDE/other; YaST very useful tool to change system settings; and the last to mention - zypper package manager is suffer than apt, but I found it more comfortable to use. So, mostly I can recommend you to poke with stick LiveISO) [1]: https://build.opensuse.org/ https://build.opensuse.org/
lockhouse 4y ago
YaST is probably the best Linux configuration tool in the business if you're sick of editing configuration files or typing obscure commands to configure things. Software versions will mostly be more up to date. Particularly if you use Tumbleweed. It is one of the best rolling release desktop oriented distros out there. There are also the one click installs on OBS (Open Build System) that make it very simple to install software that is either newer or not in the repos at all. It has an "enterprise" cousin SUSE Enterprise Linux that you can use if you ever need that level of support for things like Oracle, SAP, etc.
- mpol 4y ago
  I don't really understand why Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora have no system configuration tool. Sure, there is a configuration for the user desktop. But nothing for the system in general. It is only SuSE and Mandrake/Mageia that have such a thing, and those were built in the 1990s.
  - lockhouse 4y ago
    Fedora and by extension RHEL and its clones have Cockpit: https://cockpit-project.org/ https://cockpit-project.org/ It's no YaST but it's pretty decent.
pxc 4y ago
Zypper handles multi-repository setups much better than anything Debian-based thanks to the notions of vendor and vendor change. If you need to install proprietary software, add restricted codecs, inject a few bleeding edge packages, or run your own repo (very easy to do via the free openSUSE Build Service, a public instance of the Open Build Service), this feature of the package manager is super nice. openSUSE has some very good automated QA via OBS, too, so their rolling release (Tumbleweed) is more stable than you might expect.
77pt77 4y ago
> I’ve always been a Debian man, any one know of a good reason to switch? Debian is always way too behind the times. Even in unstable.
j7f3 4y ago
There is none. I was on Ubuntu and one day decided to give opensuse a try. Not everything works out of the box on my laptop eg to get screen dimming I had to download some extra drivers and edit grub config. On Ubuntu you can quickly find instructions how to fix it. On opensuse you're on your own. After fumbling around with config files for a few days went back to Ubuntu.

psydvl 4y ago

There is no one main point, but mostly, I'd like to mention open build service[1], where you can easily create and provide your own repo (but you also can create there one for debian); openSUSE Tumbleweed almost on bleeding edge for packages, but stable, so you can use latest GNOME/KDE/other; YaST very useful tool to change system settings; and the last to mention - zypper package manager is suffer than apt, but I found it more comfortable to use. So, mostly I can recommend you to poke with stick LiveISO) [1]: https://build.opensuse.org/ https://build.opensuse.org/

lockhouse 4y ago

YaST is probably the best Linux configuration tool in the business if you're sick of editing configuration files or typing obscure commands to configure things. Software versions will mostly be more up to date. Particularly if you use Tumbleweed. It is one of the best rolling release desktop oriented distros out there. There are also the one click installs on OBS (Open Build System) that make it very simple to install software that is either newer or not in the repos at all. It has an "enterprise" cousin SUSE Enterprise Linux that you can use if you ever need that level of support for things like Oracle, SAP, etc.

mpol 4y ago
I don't really understand why Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora have no system configuration tool. Sure, there is a configuration for the user desktop. But nothing for the system in general. It is only SuSE and Mandrake/Mageia that have such a thing, and those were built in the 1990s.
- lockhouse 4y ago
  Fedora and by extension RHEL and its clones have Cockpit: https://cockpit-project.org/ https://cockpit-project.org/ It's no YaST but it's pretty decent.

pxc 4y ago

Zypper handles multi-repository setups much better than anything Debian-based thanks to the notions of vendor and vendor change. If you need to install proprietary software, add restricted codecs, inject a few bleeding edge packages, or run your own repo (very easy to do via the free openSUSE Build Service, a public instance of the Open Build Service), this feature of the package manager is super nice. openSUSE has some very good automated QA via OBS, too, so their rolling release (Tumbleweed) is more stable than you might expect.

77pt77 4y ago

> I’ve always been a Debian man, any one know of a good reason to switch? Debian is always way too behind the times. Even in unstable.

j7f3 4y ago

There is none. I was on Ubuntu and one day decided to give opensuse a try. Not everything works out of the box on my laptop eg to get screen dimming I had to download some extra drivers and edit grub config. On Ubuntu you can quickly find instructions how to fix it. On opensuse you're on your own. After fumbling around with config files for a few days went back to Ubuntu.