> true of a fair number of humans, too And your conclusion would be? If they show to have what it takes we will call them intelligent, otherwise unintelligent.

> true of a fair number of humans, too And your conclusion would be? If they show to have what it takes we will call them intelligent, otherwise unintelligent. Some seem to want to cling to a weak definition of intelligence, covering all sentient beings in compassion - but we are engineering /tools/, things that have to be effective, "have what it takes"... This puts the "intelligence" of the narcoleptic carp in a special corner with little relevance to the context.