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There will be 3 jobs in the future: 1. Engineers (building tech) 2. Technicians (running the tech and troubleshooting, providing a human interface) 3. Capita

There will be 3 jobs in the future: 1. Engineers (building tech) 2. Technicians (running the tech and troubleshooting, providing a human interface) 3. Capital Owner/Manager Nursing will be the 2nd job and it will be devalued, they will prompt an AI for things like diagnoses and they will supply it with data.

quadcore 4y ago
Why are they gonna be devalued? I was thinking it'd be the opposite: piss them off and you're made. I assume prompting isnt gonna be critical for them to do their job meaning they are hard to replace. That's what come to mind at first. Edit: if i understand correctly, engineers will build tech with their new computer: GPT.
- fullshark 4y ago
  Nurses will be the human interface for data retrieval and prescribed treatments by an AI. It will be low skilled manual labor.
  - Spooky23 4y ago
    Nurses already do this in a hospital setting. They need to arbitrate the sometimes conflicting orders from various doctors, and actually deliver care to the patients. It’s a job that if anything will be more in demand and is fungible. As a nurse you’re not trapped in a geographical area or employer, and have a wide variety of career paths. Engineering is a feast and famine business. Once growth slows, engineers get devalued. If AI is a thing, most of the full stack engineers, front end people and SREs will experience an implosion in demand and salary. No more massages and $500k compensation. See the early 90s movie “Falling Down”. If nursing is an interest and you’re starting out, it’s a much better career in 2023 than software stuff.
    - fullshark 4y ago
      I'm guessing you're a survivor of the dotcom bust, I think you shouldn't necessarily extrapolate from that scenario for the upcoming famine given the profitability of software and that it's a fundamental component of every single aspect of the economy today, but I hear you. Certain skills become useless almost overnight, as a large scale service can provide what an in-house SWE provides at a cheaper cost, and jobs get eliminated.
      - Spooky23 4y ago
        I didn’t go through that, but I started a few years later. The issue is growth. Individual prosperity is tied to growth - that’s why engineers are so well paid; they are productive employees priced based on future value. Once growth slows, value crashes. The big “if” is whether AI is as big of a deal. Personally, i think it’s a field with a lot of hype historically. But nursing is still a great career path, if for no reason other than not being stuck in particular geographical areas.
breckenedge 4y ago
Hah wow. Same thing was going through my head about 12 years ago, which is why I became an engineer. And as I look at people becoming an engineer now va then, the barrier for entry just seems so much higher, and there is a ton of competition for entry-level jobs.
- ineedausername 4y ago
  Exactly. The barrier is a lot higher, but it's advertised as exactly the opposite, which I can't help but find amusing.
ActorNightly 4y ago
Its hard to say what the future will be because it highly depends on accessibility to AI compute for the average person. Right now, you need a massive power source to run GPT 4 on pretty specialized compute units. Its unclear how this is going to pan out in the future.
admissionsguy 4y ago
They will also need security forces / killbot operators to keep the masses at bay.
- fullshark 4y ago
  And they will no longer require citizens to serve in that security force in large numbers, a phenomenon that previously incentivized a ruling class in service to the citizens’ concerns at some level.
waynesonfire 4y ago
This is about as insightful as a claim that there will only be 1 job in the future, those doing jobs.

quadcore 4y ago

Why are they gonna be devalued? I was thinking it'd be the opposite: piss them off and you're made. I assume prompting isnt gonna be critical for them to do their job meaning they are hard to replace. That's what come to mind at first. Edit: if i understand correctly, engineers will build tech with their new computer: GPT.

fullshark 4y ago
Nurses will be the human interface for data retrieval and prescribed treatments by an AI. It will be low skilled manual labor.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  Nurses already do this in a hospital setting. They need to arbitrate the sometimes conflicting orders from various doctors, and actually deliver care to the patients. It’s a job that if anything will be more in demand and is fungible. As a nurse you’re not trapped in a geographical area or employer, and have a wide variety of career paths. Engineering is a feast and famine business. Once growth slows, engineers get devalued. If AI is a thing, most of the full stack engineers, front end people and SREs will experience an implosion in demand and salary. No more massages and $500k compensation. See the early 90s movie “Falling Down”. If nursing is an interest and you’re starting out, it’s a much better career in 2023 than software stuff.
  - fullshark 4y ago
    I'm guessing you're a survivor of the dotcom bust, I think you shouldn't necessarily extrapolate from that scenario for the upcoming famine given the profitability of software and that it's a fundamental component of every single aspect of the economy today, but I hear you. Certain skills become useless almost overnight, as a large scale service can provide what an in-house SWE provides at a cheaper cost, and jobs get eliminated.
    - Spooky23 4y ago
      I didn’t go through that, but I started a few years later. The issue is growth. Individual prosperity is tied to growth - that’s why engineers are so well paid; they are productive employees priced based on future value. Once growth slows, value crashes. The big “if” is whether AI is as big of a deal. Personally, i think it’s a field with a lot of hype historically. But nursing is still a great career path, if for no reason other than not being stuck in particular geographical areas.

breckenedge 4y ago

Hah wow. Same thing was going through my head about 12 years ago, which is why I became an engineer. And as I look at people becoming an engineer now va then, the barrier for entry just seems so much higher, and there is a ton of competition for entry-level jobs.

ineedausername 4y ago
Exactly. The barrier is a lot higher, but it's advertised as exactly the opposite, which I can't help but find amusing.

ActorNightly 4y ago

Its hard to say what the future will be because it highly depends on accessibility to AI compute for the average person. Right now, you need a massive power source to run GPT 4 on pretty specialized compute units. Its unclear how this is going to pan out in the future.

admissionsguy 4y ago

They will also need security forces / killbot operators to keep the masses at bay.

fullshark 4y ago
And they will no longer require citizens to serve in that security force in large numbers, a phenomenon that previously incentivized a ruling class in service to the citizens’ concerns at some level.

waynesonfire 4y ago

This is about as insightful as a claim that there will only be 1 job in the future, those doing jobs.