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This is one of the things NixOS is good for. There can be a special version of Linux that is only updated once some regression test on ZFS passes: `config.boot

by ratorx 4y ago

This is one of the things NixOS is good for. There can be a special version of Linux that is only updated once some regression test on ZFS passes: `config.boot.zfs.package.latestCompatibleLinuxPackages` That way the main maintainer can still follow HEAD, whilst the ZFS maintainer can make sure that Linux is updated for ZFS once it’s been tested (or even automatically, but I don’t know if it’s that advanced yet).

SuperSandro2000 4y ago
And even if you don't use that, the build just fails early without consequences.
aftbit 4y ago
I see a lot of smart people recommending Nix, but whenever I look at it, it seems like there are a ton of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system...
- ratorx 4y ago
  It depends (and not any more than applications that need sneaky config). Simple systems can have quite simple options. At the very least you can take a working copy and figure out exactly which configuration is necessary. Hard to do that without NixOS. Especially with nixos-option. And the options are all documented in a central place. The module definitions using the options are also “easy” to search through (Language is a bit complicated, but not in a way that grep doesn’t work).
- assbuttbuttass 4y ago
  nixos-generate-config usually produces a working config out of the box. And if you need to change some obscure config options, everything is well documented with "man configuration.nix"
  - ElectricalUnion 4y ago
    I like https://search.nixos.org/options https://search.nixos.org/options , but while nicer it enters the "need somewhat working system to fix the system" bootstraping issues.
- ElectricalUnion 4y ago
  > but whenever I look at it, it seems like there are a ton of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system... Well, on any system there are tons of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system; it's just that on non-nixos, those aren't deterministic/version-control friendly/reproducible/centralized.

by ratorx 4y ago

SuperSandro2000 4y ago

And even if you don't use that, the build just fails early without consequences.

aftbit 4y ago

I see a lot of smart people recommending Nix, but whenever I look at it, it seems like there are a ton of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system...

ratorx 4y ago
It depends (and not any more than applications that need sneaky config). Simple systems can have quite simple options. At the very least you can take a working copy and figure out exactly which configuration is necessary. Hard to do that without NixOS. Especially with nixos-option. And the options are all documented in a central place. The module definitions using the options are also “easy” to search through (Language is a bit complicated, but not in a way that grep doesn’t work).
assbuttbuttass 4y ago
nixos-generate-config usually produces a working config out of the box. And if you need to change some obscure config options, everything is well documented with "man configuration.nix"
- ElectricalUnion 4y ago
  I like https://search.nixos.org/options https://search.nixos.org/options , but while nicer it enters the "need somewhat working system to fix the system" bootstraping issues.
ElectricalUnion 4y ago
> but whenever I look at it, it seems like there are a ton of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system... Well, on any system there are tons of sneaky config options that one must get right to get a working system; it's just that on non-nixos, those aren't deterministic/version-control friendly/reproducible/centralized.