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To be fair, it's actually very easy to wrap your head around that. Consider this for a moment: does anybody pretend that if Mexico were to ally itself with Russ

To be fair, it's actually very easy to wrap your head around that. Consider this for a moment: does anybody pretend that if Mexico were to ally itself with Russia, right on the US's doorstep, that the US would sit still and "respect Mexico's sovereignty to ally with whomever they want"? Please...

sorenjan 4y ago
The US would be unanimously condemned if that would happen, but that reasoning is dependent on Russian propaganda that this war is because of NATO provocation. If that was the case, why haven't Russia invaded Finland? Why does Putin say that it's of no consequence that Finland and Sweden has applied for NATO membership? This war is not about Russia not wanting NATO or EU on its borders. It started in 2014 when Ukraine was about to start moving closer to the rest of Europe, and further from Russia. Russia thinks Ukraine belongs to them, it's nothing but pure imperialism. The same thing is happening in Belarus by the way. Lukasjenko is propped up by Putin, and in reality they're basically part of Russia now, with Russian military units and even nuclear weapons.
- mongol 4y ago
  > Why does Putin say that it's of no consequence that Finland and Sweden has applied for NATO membership? It doesn't matter because he is the biggest liar. It was absolutely not what he and Russia were saying late 2021, before they realized how weak their military was. His and Russias actions show that he can't be trusted for a second.
CamperBob2 4y ago
Now, why might Mexico do a thing like that? Discuss.
timeon 4y ago
Consider this for a moment. If you need to fabricate a situation just to make the point maybe then the point is not based on strong foundations.
- andrepd 4y ago
  Fabricate? Someone needs to read about 20th century history x) I don't need to fabricate anything, the US has been involved in over a hundred regime change operations, either covertly or explicitly, to further its geopolitical goals. The Soviets as well, before somebody comes with the whataboutism.
TulliusCicero 4y ago
The US would be upset, yes, but would they invade Mexico? Unlikely. And they'd be rightfully condemned if they did invade.
- andrepd 4y ago
  >Unlikely We don't need to imagine, the US has invaded countries in what it deemed to be its "backyard" for taking choices they don't approve of.
josephcsible 4y ago
Didn't Cuba do that, without the US annexing Cuba for it?

sorenjan 4y ago

The US would be unanimously condemned if that would happen, but that reasoning is dependent on Russian propaganda that this war is because of NATO provocation. If that was the case, why haven't Russia invaded Finland? Why does Putin say that it's of no consequence that Finland and Sweden has applied for NATO membership? This war is not about Russia not wanting NATO or EU on its borders. It started in 2014 when Ukraine was about to start moving closer to the rest of Europe, and further from Russia. Russia thinks Ukraine belongs to them, it's nothing but pure imperialism. The same thing is happening in Belarus by the way. Lukasjenko is propped up by Putin, and in reality they're basically part of Russia now, with Russian military units and even nuclear weapons.

mongol 4y ago
> Why does Putin say that it's of no consequence that Finland and Sweden has applied for NATO membership? It doesn't matter because he is the biggest liar. It was absolutely not what he and Russia were saying late 2021, before they realized how weak their military was. His and Russias actions show that he can't be trusted for a second.

CamperBob2 4y ago

Now, why might Mexico do a thing like that? Discuss.

timeon 4y ago

Consider this for a moment. If you need to fabricate a situation just to make the point maybe then the point is not based on strong foundations.

andrepd 4y ago
Fabricate? Someone needs to read about 20th century history x) I don't need to fabricate anything, the US has been involved in over a hundred regime change operations, either covertly or explicitly, to further its geopolitical goals. The Soviets as well, before somebody comes with the whataboutism.

TulliusCicero 4y ago

The US would be upset, yes, but would they invade Mexico? Unlikely. And they'd be rightfully condemned if they did invade.

andrepd 4y ago
>Unlikely We don't need to imagine, the US has invaded countries in what it deemed to be its "backyard" for taking choices they don't approve of.

josephcsible 4y ago

Didn't Cuba do that, without the US annexing Cuba for it?